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superchunk said:
MrBubbles said:
superchunk said:
BTFeather55 said:
It goes back to Biblical days and Abraham's two sons.

No it does not.

Jews and Muslims/Arabs have historically lived very well together. This conflict started about 70 years ago.

In fact it is known that pre-Israel, the only places on Earth Jews have had a high quality of life were in America and Muslim lands, especially Muslim Spain. Many of their greatest thinkers lived in Muslim Spain.

Reason is, back then Islamic Countries actually practised Freedom of Speach, Religion, etc. I would consider todays Muslim world to be in its own Dark Ages.

 

 

you might want to tell that to the ones mohammed killed.

oh, you mean the tribes that lived in Medinah who, according to historical accounts, conspired against the Muslims with their other Arab enemies. That made them a legitimate enemy. So, one small Jewish/Muslim issue over the last 1500 years makes them mortal enemies? I suggest you look at their relations more

u think he doen't know that?

 



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Words Of Wisdom said:
I think that if terrorists in Canada started firing missiles across the US border killing US civilians while the Canadian government did nothing that the US would indeed do something to protect its citizens.

Some would question the level of Israel's retaliation but their motivation should be fairly clear (conspiracy theories aside).

They arent' even terrorists though.

I mean... they are.

But they're the legally elected government of the Palestinian people.  It's not a case of...

"Oh damn... those terrorists are attacking, and now the people who live in the same area are hurt as well."

It's a case of

"Oh damn... that government elected by the people is attacking those people who live in the same area."

So long as Hamas is the legally elected government of Gaza.. and they continue to attack Israel and comit acts of war...

The palestinian people have to deal with the consequences... since they voted them in.

 

 

yeah espacially the kids , they really have to deal with it

 



^^^Good point. So why did their parents vote in terrorists as their leaders? If they loved their kids more than they hated Jews, then the current situation would be quite different. Hamas admitedly uses children and families as human shields... is the type of leadership that the Palestinian people want a group of cowards who hide behind babies? Something is seriously wrong with that.



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^^^Good point. So why did their parents vote in terrorists as their leaders? If they loved their kids more than they hated Jews, then the current situation would be quite different. Hamas uses children and families as human shields... is the type of leadership that the Palestinian people want a group of cowards who hide behind babies? Something is seriously wrong with that.

 

because when it was fateh is charge  things were bad too , because they waited for an Arabic interefernce to solve it and it never happened?

because the people who voted had never been educated a good education, because years ago they were kids and witnessed their parents die too, because they were raised in anger too?

u think the kids now would seek peace when they grow up? aren't they gonna seek revenge?

I'm watchin tv now and Israel are throwing the bombs that are not supposed to be used -I don't know what it's called but in arabic it's "al-onkodeiah" the same as "grapes" in english-

I'm not saying hammas is right but Israel is over killing and I don't know what to do and I don't know what should be done , all I know that arabic leader are the only one who can solve it but they won't god I hate myself at the moment



^^^ Yes, but a real man lays down his life for his children, and doesn't ask them to lay down their lives for him. That's the definition of a coward, and I spit upon anyone who would tell their kids to kill Jews because it is the will of Allah, as it is not.



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I am angry with this thread. Im not convinced that over 400 deaths is a valid response to 5 missile deaths. It is getting worse and NO EXCUSE will ignore the fact that people are being slaughtered.



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umm one good reason? They had more soldiers than they did airplanes, so they had to walk?



@ megaman:

Oh I see, so you deny the fact that Hamas admittedly place human shields (women and children) in harms way on purpose so that they will die?

I can post 100 more videos showing this if you'd like. You don't like Israel? Fine, I don't really care. But if you won't admit that Hamas is a vile organization that is responsible for the death of their people, then everything that you say is invalid. I can prove it and make this thread 1000 pages long with proof of Hamas' crimes... you'll never admit it because you don't care about dead Jews, because if you did, you'd at the very least speak out against Hamas' crimes as well. But that would be too honest for you... I expected that from you really.

Although, it is at least partially amuzing that you are angry with the thread, when you are the one who created it.



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@ megaman:

Oh I see, so you deny the fact that Hamas admittedly place human shields (women and children) in harms way on purpose so that they will die?

I can post 100 more videos showing this if you'd like. You don't like Israel? Fine, I don't really care. But if you won't admit that Hamas is a vile organization that is responsible for the death of their people, then everything that you say is invalid. I can prove it and make this thread 1000 pages long with proof of Hamas' crimes... you'll never admit it because you don't care about dead Jews, because if you did, you'd at the very least speak out against Hamas' crimes as well. But that would be too honest for you... I expected that from you really.

Although, it is at least partially amuzing that you are angry with the thread, when you are the one who created it.

 

Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say shit about not liking anyone. Firstly, i see no difference between that Hamas tactic and any other government using poor young volunteers to sacrifice themselves in any war.

btw that is crap about human shields and ill tell you why. For the same reason journalists arn't allowed in, there is no evidence or the truth is negatively reflected on the gate keepers Israel. No evidence that Hamas people,weapons or bombs were correctly targetted. Bombing mosques on the sunday makes you wonder. There isn't evidence of Hamas specifically telling their own wives and their own children to stand in the way of bombs, infact it sounds typically urban legend like.

And also what if they did? You dk the motivations for these people. You dk what it is REALLY like to live in gaza.

To me, the US terrorised Iraqi people because they invaded illegally. See the difference in perspective.

 



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megaman79 said:
Comrade Tovya said:

@ megaman:

Oh I see, so you deny the fact that Hamas admittedly place human shields (women and children) in harms way on purpose so that they will die?

I can post 100 more videos showing this if you'd like. You don't like Israel? Fine, I don't really care. But if you won't admit that Hamas is a vile organization that is responsible for the death of their people, then everything that you say is invalid. I can prove it and make this thread 1000 pages long with proof of Hamas' crimes... you'll never admit it because you don't care about dead Jews, because if you did, you'd at the very least speak out against Hamas' crimes as well. But that would be too honest for you... I expected that from you really.

Although, it is at least partially amuzing that you are angry with the thread, when you are the one who created it.

 

Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say shit about not liking anyone. Firstly, i see no difference between that Hamas tactic and any other government using poor young volunteers to sacrifice themselves in any war.

btw that is crap about human shields and ill tell you why. For the same reason journalists arn't allowed in, there is no evidence or the truth is negatively reflected on the gate keepers Israel. No evidence that Hamas people,weapons or bombs were correctly targetted. Bombing mosques on the sunday makes you wonder. There isn't evidence of Hamas specifically telling their own wives and their own children to stand in the way of bombs, infact it sounds typically urban legend like.

And also what if they did? You dk the motivations for these people. You dk what it is REALLY like to live in gaza.

To me, the US terrorised Iraqi people because they invaded illegally. See the difference in perspective.

 

 

Actually, Hamas admits that they use women and children as human shield, so no one needs to speculate.  The guilt is spoken with the words from the horses mouth.  So once again, you have shown your true colors.

Secondly, I've been there, and you haven't, so stop pretending like you know anything about the territories.  Sit back in your chair in Australia, and think whatever you want.  If you stepped into the territories waving a Palestinian flag, they'd rip you to shreds anyway.

I think you are in denial (as usual) because you don't like Jews.  I just asked you to condemn Hamas' tactics of purposely (per their own words, not mine) that you condemn their using of children to murder other children, and you are silent.

You think I am jumping to conclusions about you?  Then codemn Hamas publiclly for the murdering of Jews and their own people.  The Palestinians deserve better than this... condemn Hamas as the murderous terrorist organization that it is and I will withdraw my comment about you.  Otherwise, it stands, because you prove it by your silence.



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