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johnsobas on 03 January 2009

what is so hard to believe? Just read it for 2 seconds it says "Sony looks to 50% global market share for its Blu-ray products in 2008." You seriously think this made it to that many sites and the guy didn't even say it?

Yea i guess it's vague about if he is referring to discs or to player sales, either way they didn't make it.



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dbot on 03 January 2009
DirtyP2002 said:
Xen said:
DirtyP2002 said:

VoD will be the future. Not BluRay or any other disc.

Long, distant future, with a change in human preference and perception even.

It's nice to see BR doing well. That means more good movies on it, more compilations on it... hopefully we'll see rock bands release HD concerts too!

 

 

3-4 years maybe. It is possible right now, but you have to download quite a bit. I live in a small city in Germany, so I just got 3mb/s. I need like 2 hours to download / stream a HD movie (720p). I don't know how MS is doing it but the quality was great, even a movie like "No Country for old men" with 5.1 sound and 720p was 4.2 GB. But the quality was great. I have got like 40 HD-DVDs (bought them for 4-5€, after the death of HD-DVD) here and the difference is very small.

In bigger cities like cologne they offer 100mb/s-connection. So you can watch HD-movies in no time, if you have such a connection. I don't know the price right now, but like every new technology it will be much cheaper in 3-4 years. I don't know about the connections in NA. There won't be big differences between UK / Germany / France / Belgium / Netherlands / Austria /Switzerland. Scandinavia (Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway ... Iceland) is superb when it comes to connections. So it will be possible in the near future. It is possible right now.

And as we have seen with music, the human preference is changing. Hi @ iTunes.

 

 

They are doing it with a much lower bitrate.

 

Source/service CODEC Resolution Bit-rate
Blu-ray H.264 or MPEG2 1920×1080 1080i/p 40
HD DVD H.264 or VC-1 1920×1080 1080i/p 28
ATSC HDTV MPEG2 1920×1080 1080i/p 19.39
Digital cable MPEG2 1920×1080 1080i/p ~ 16
Verizon FiOS
Video on demand		 MPEG2 1920×1080 1080i 15
DISH HD MPEG2/MPEG4 1440×1080 < 10
DIRECTV HD MPEG2/MPEG4 1280×1080 < 10
IPTV H.264 ? < 10
Xbox Live Video VC-1 1280×720 720p 6.8
DVD MPEG2 720×480 480i * 8
Apple iTunes QuickTime/H.264 1280×720 720p 4
Web “HD” downloads H.264 1280×720 720p 1.5


Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

shams on 03 January 2009

Its like the graph says - market share for the "top#20" movies. BluRay will always favor new releases, and the bigger movies at launch.

It does not, however, represent 'legs' in any form - and this is where the majority of sales occur.

I would like to see the BluRay market share across ALL DVD sales - either new release, older or budget titles. My local 'Safeway' (grocery chain) sells DVDs - for around $10 (AU) each. And they sell a LOT of them.

I now have a semi-decent collection of DVDs - maybe 60. Not huge by any standards. Average price - $10 (AU). Lots of classics at '5 for $60' sales.

Any figures available for overall market share? (I have never seen any - it might be impossible to track anyway...).



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starcraft on 03 January 2009
MikeB said:
johnsobas said:
dbot said:
@johnsobas - please provide a link for that claim. Sony would be insane to believe they will have 50% market share this year.

I know it sounds stupid and like something a fanboy would make up, but Sony actually said that.

 (US press reliability and accuracy is often very bad)

Mike cleared this one up for us folks.

It's not good Blu-Ray news, it's just Dvdfile.com displaying more crappy US reporting.

Nothing to see here people.

 



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HanzoTheRazor on 03 January 2009
DirtyP2002 said:

VoD will be the future. Not BluRay or any other disc.


LOL at this^^^. Some reeeeeal slow learners out there!

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S.T.A.G.E. on 03 January 2009

Videogames still count as blu ray sales along with movies, so of course there would be a huge boost.



johnsobas on 03 January 2009
starcraft said:
MikeB said:
johnsobas said:
dbot said:
@johnsobas - please provide a link for that claim. Sony would be insane to believe they will have 50% market share this year.

I know it sounds stupid and like something a fanboy would make up, but Sony actually said that.

 (US press reliability and accuracy is often very bad)

Mike cleared this one up for us folks.

It's not good Blu-Ray news, it's just Dvdfile.com displaying more crappy US reporting.

Nothing to see here people.

 

no he didn't.  He posted some links about unrelated things trying to show how the  US press has lied in the past, nothing groundbreaking.  This story is all over the net, and yea it's from the same source but this story has been out for a long time and I see no reason to believe it is false.  If a story like this was all over the internet and the president of sony didn't say it, there would be a denial.  Since when do all vgchartz articles have to include the original quotes in Japanese to be considered valid?

 

"Videogames still count as blu ray sales along with movies, so of course there would be a huge boost."

so blu-ray video games would count but not DVD video games?  That doesn't make sense.

 



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ssj12 on 03 January 2009
NJ5 said:
If I've learned anything from Blu-Ray marketing spin, it's that that "market-share" graph is most likely done based on revenue instead of units sold.

 

than you really need to learn to read. It says Top 20 market-share meaning the Top 20 selling movies each month. My thread tracks both revenue and the Top 20 titles.



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sega4life on 03 January 2009

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dbot on 03 January 2009
johnsobas said:
starcraft said:
MikeB said:
johnsobas said:
dbot said:
@johnsobas - please provide a link for that claim. Sony would be insane to believe they will have 50% market share this year.

I know it sounds stupid and like something a fanboy would make up, but Sony actually said that.

(US press reliability and accuracy is often very bad)

Mike cleared this one up for us folks.

It's not good Blu-Ray news, it's just Dvdfile.com displaying more crappy US reporting.

Nothing to see here people.

 

no he didn't. He posted some links about unrelated things trying to show how the US press has lied in the past, nothing groundbreaking. This story is all over the net, and yea it's from the same source but this story has been out for a long time and I see no reason to believe it is false. If a story like this was all over the internet and the president of sony didn't say it, there would be a denial. Since when do all vgchartz articles have to include the original quotes in Japanese to be considered valid?

 

"Videogames still count as blu ray sales along with movies, so of course there would be a huge boost."

so blu-ray video games would count but not DVD video games? That doesn't make sense.

 

 

I appreciate the folks who took the opportunity to knock the US Press, but the original source media is owned and operated in Taiwan not the US.  Also, I didn't mean to derail the thread by asking for a source to the original claim.  Obviously something has been lost in translation because nobody is holding Blu-ray to a 50% market share metric for 2008.  Blu-ray has had a very good 2008 and I look forward to the continued success in 2009.



Thanks for the input, Jeff.