PS360 is doomed.... HOLY SHIT!


No seriously... this news isn't impressing anyone because everyone know the Wii would soon start to get huge 3rd party titles..... This doesn't mean that 60% of 3rd party support will shift to the Wii.....

Many point to the argument that developers for sports games and shooters want more horsepower because their niche audience wants to see prettier graphics, etc. on those types of games. Something else to consider, however, is that some games simply can't be made right now for the Wii due to processing power not being able to keep up with the Artificial Intelligence that some games require and that the HD consoles can provide. A lot of horsepower goes into AI in some current-generation games (e.g. CoD) and the Wii simply can't provide it. I realize this is just an ancillary argument to why DQX isn't an HD killer but I thought that it might deserve at least a little thought.

Also, the original post was just silly. Sure it will make a difference but it's not an HD killer by any stretch.

EDIT: I realize my argument about horsepower and AI doesn't make sense since they're developing CoD games for the Wii with scaled down graphics and AI and people don't really seem to notice or care that the AI is inferior.  My bad!

That's only because the operative word here is in the future tense, if you get my meaning.

 well written, I think all hd fanboys are in denial when it comes to what the Wii is becoming. Or maybe they think if they ignore the Wii enough it will go away.

Also, Kojami seems to have seen the Wii light too, I have heard is working on 1-2 wii exclusives, which makes sense seeing konami has stated recently they are investing in the Wii more.

@bigjon its probably only "well written" to you because he agrees with your view point.

Theres far too much internet speculation and second guessing in this thread. Obviously the smarty pants people here know why the Wii hasn't recieved the games they want and the publishers are just idiots.

 It was well written, I just would not have complemented him if I disagreed.

Not too many will deny that the Wii "hasn't" recieved as many core games as we'd like, especial Q3 and 4 2008. But the point of this thread is WILL recieve. And I too believe that the DQX is just the beginning of more. His point in this thread is that, DQX should be a red flag to all HD fanboys, but many of them and just trying to make DQX a non factor. I liken it to FFVII moving to the PSX, Nintendo is going to push this game on the west, and I am willing to bet there were people who thought Pokemon, Zelda, DK, and whatnot would not sell in the west, but Nintendo has succeeded there. I think DQX will outsell ALL other DQX games in the west combined (not saying as much as it sounds... like 1.5-2 mil) and will completely legimize the Wii in the East. Remember the SNES? Nintendo won in the US, but it was not a huge blowout, and in fact I think the Genesis egded it in the others, but look back, The SNES had ALL of the Japanese Support, and Wii is beginning to look the same.

I do not think the Wii will become the console of choice of most core gamers in the west (I do believe it will in the east), but I think it will become legitmate to them, and many of them will end up getting one because of the support it will recieve. But, I think it will always be a 2nd console to many core gamers in the west.

Words Of Wisdom said:

You know... it's pathetic how many people think of "Western developers" and "Eastern developers" as entities unto themselves.  They're really not.  When you have companies as different from one another as Bioware, Valve, Blizzard, and the Bethesda that each handle their games very differently, you'd think people would realize that they don't all act the same.

Some companies adapt quickly (EA), What are you smoking, adapting to what, losing 400 million dollars by quarter? I don't call that adaptation, I call that financial suicide. They may have changed model, it doesn't mean the new one work.

some adapt slowly (Take-Two), Or at all

and some just weather the storm casually glancing down at the peasants around their feet (Valve/Blizzard). That I agree, funny how both of them are PC oriented company, same for EPIC. Actually all the company who are mainly PC developer are doing really well. Hmm I wonder why:)

Meanwhile companies like Konami have been taking hits financially Err, they made more money in 2008 than 2007 and just a little less than 2006 where they made almost 200 million. So much for financial hit. I suggest you look at the hard number, not at fanboy article straight out of Kotaku(sp?)

and SE has had to reverse its flagship title from exclusive to multiplatform to survive the times. To survive the time? They are still profitable during the time they are making FF, so even if it flop, hell don't sell at all, they won't die because of it they would just lose profit. Square learned it's lesson with The Spirit Within.

It's not a factor of where the company is located or what race of people run it, it's just a matter of some having foresight and covering their butts... and some not.

Funny how all the japanese company you could think of "doing badly" are still profitable yet the western one mentionned are on course for bankruptcy. That is the real problem, japenese company sacrified market share for profitabilty, while the western one are doing the opposite, the problem is oblivious, not matter how much market share you have it won't change the fact that when you go under you find yourself with nothing.

But

But I have the games I want

Well DQ X only confirms that Japanese devs fully support the Wii and this is the most important console for them, already we see big franchises moving to that console: MH, Tales and the others will follow.

@Squillam, of course Wii will get the most talented 3rd party teams, maybe not from western Devs , but definately from Japanese creators since Wii will be the place of their flagship titles i dont think they would shoot themselves in the foot by putting less profilic team to tales of 10 then to the tales of vesperia.


Well the future of big western 3rd party support for the Wii is still uncertain, the Japanese was confirmed by DQ X Wii

You've got cause and effect backwards. The Wii is getting DQ as an effect of it's dominance in Japan, this isn't going to cause them to substantially improve the situation there when the writing is already on the wall. FFVII was a major cause of the shift away from Nintendo towards Sony when the race could go either way. Money-hat of the century really IMO.

DQ as a game is not going to compromise its' core values which are somewhat incompatible with the west when compared to other I.Ps like pokemon. There the game was considered valuable wherever it released. The market is in Japan and thats where they will focus. If it turns out that it does well in the west following that model then GREAT! 

Furthermore publishers are so conservative they will likely not act upon the news of this games format until they get hard sales data in hand which is likely too late to effect a change on the development principles of these companies. It will be other games like Shaun White which are already released which will effect games currently in and/or going into production shortly.

Lastly, really the whole "Core"/"Casual" divide is intellectually dishonest and misleading. Gamers just want to have fun really, and we do better to ignore the very idea that one group of people will like or dislike a certain game depending on which group they fall into. Perhaps if we ourselves get out of this bad habit the Publishers could too because ideally all genres of all games should have excellent representations on all viable consoles. My favourite games last generation was Need for Speed: Underground and Civilization III/IV. One makes me core and the other makes me casual? Bah! Nintendo just makes games fun for everyone and it pays.