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NJ5 on 02 January 2009
megaman79 said:
TheBigFatJ said:
megaman79 said:

This is the answer. Sony CANNOT match the price MS can drop their price to. s--t i hate anti competitive low ball pricing mutha fubars. Put small business owners out of business because they can charge much less than the average price. This is exactly what MS will do.

 

 

Microsoft isn't lowballing. They're probably going to post another profitable year for the 360 which means they're not lowering the price artificially. If anything, Sony is since they're losing money.

$199/$299 is not a low price for a console into its 4th year. The PS2 hit that price point a lot earlier. How is Microsoft being unreasonable here? What we're really seeing here is that the consoles have not dropped in price as they should have.

I like the competition. It makes console gaming cheaper for everyone.

 

Its not fair when one company deliberatly prices their product cheaper with the aim of eliminating their competition bcoz they cant price that product at the same price. Its anti competitive and there should be laws against it unless your happy shopping at starbucks, mcdonalds, wallmart and target for the rest of your life.

I like netscape, MS used this same tactic.

So you're saying companies should all have the same prices?

If Microsoft is making profit from the 360, they're not being anti-competitive, period. It is Sony which is lowballing their prices.

 



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megaman79 on 02 January 2009
NJ5 said:
megaman79 said:
TheBigFatJ said:
megaman79 said:

This is the answer. Sony CANNOT match the price MS can drop their price to. s--t i hate anti competitive low ball pricing mutha fubars. Put small business owners out of business because they can charge much less than the average price. This is exactly what MS will do.

 

 

Microsoft isn't lowballing. They're probably going to post another profitable year for the 360 which means they're not lowering the price artificially. If anything, Sony is since they're losing money.

$199/$299 is not a low price for a console into its 4th year. The PS2 hit that price point a lot earlier. How is Microsoft being unreasonable here? What we're really seeing here is that the consoles have not dropped in price as they should have.

I like the competition. It makes console gaming cheaper for everyone.

 

Its not fair when one company deliberatly prices their product cheaper with the aim of eliminating their competition bcoz they cant price that product at the same price. Its anti competitive and there should be laws against it unless your happy shopping at starbucks, mcdonalds, wallmart and target for the rest of your life.

I like netscape, MS used this same tactic.

So you're saying companies should all have the same prices?

If Microsoft is making profit from the 360, they're not being anti-competitive, period. It is Sony which is lowballing their prices.

 

 

No and this is a different circumstance obviously, 2 big businesses but i hate to think that what happened to Sega will happen to Nintendo due to the bigger companies ability to absorb losses.

btw i am aware that Nintendo should be fine for a few yrs. My point is still relevent.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

Paperdiego on 02 January 2009

idk it would be nice to have sony do better but like last year people were calling 2008 the year of sony and look where that ended..

but i guess it doesn't hurt to be optomistic

 

*EDIT*

 

no big games?

i am pretty sure, of the games that are known, Wii Sports Resort will be the biggest game of next year



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linkthe2nd on 02 January 2009

I thought the rule was Sony's year=next year. That's what I kept hearing since it came out.



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megaman79 on 02 January 2009
Paperdiego said:

idk it would be nice to have sony do better but like last year people were calling 2008 the year of sony and look where that ended..

but i guess it doesn't hurt to be optomistic

 

*EDIT*

 

no big games?

i am pretty sure, of the games that are known, Wii Sports Resort will be the biggest game of next year

 which yr pacman? partyin too hard

 



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

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ukeatdabian on 02 January 2009

isn't Gearbox = Xbox fanboy?



badgenome on 02 January 2009
ukeatdabian said:
isn't Gearbox = Xbox fanboy?

Hardly.



Dryden on 02 January 2009
megaman79 said:

Its not fair when one company deliberatly prices their product cheaper with the aim of eliminating their competition bcoz they cant price that product at the same price. Its anti competitive and there should be laws against it unless your happy shopping at starbucks, mcdonalds, wallmart and target for the rest of your life.

I like netscape, MS used this same tactic.

This goes back to the original PlayStation -- Sony were the pioneers of dumping to put their competitors out of business. The day Sega announced the Saturn was going to be $399 at E3, the Sony keynote speaker walked up to the podium 15 mintues later and said, "two-hundred and ninety-nine dollars," then turned right back around and walked off. There had already been a furor over whether or not Sega, Nintendo, 3DO, Atari, and/or others would file a joint lawsuit against Sony to stop the PlayStation's release in North America on the premise of "dumping" (deliberately selling a product overseas at a loss and significantly less than your domestic price, just to stifle competition).

One of the reasons Sony was able to weather the losses on the original PlayStation is that they cut every corner they could to get the price as low as possible in manufacture. One example being that nearly the entire laser assembly was constructed from plastic. This was later discovered to be susceptible to warping and caused a number of failures in the first gen units. Oh well. Another crucial decision was having the PS built around a flimsy, but cheap, clamshell lid instead of a tray or slot loading drive.

With the PS3, Sony went 'wrong' in just about every aspect and unnecessarily drove up the price of the console. Microsoft, on the other hand, cut every corner they could. Sure, Microsoft's reliability was terrible at first, but then, so was Sony's back in 1995. All Microsoft has done is copy Sony's own business model from 15 years ago.



leo-j on 02 January 2009

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FinalEvangelion on 02 January 2009

Sales - probably not...

Games - 2008 was Sony's year IMO and many other journalistic opinions. MGS4, LBP, Valkyria Chronicles, and finally WKC made for a very good year for the PS3.

The 360 - I liked Tales of Vesperia and Fable 2. LO to a certain extent. Didn't care too much about GeOW 2.



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