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I agree grampy, there is still cash, but I think they give more money to shareholders than trying to be less conservative in their investments.



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Nintendo would never buy Sony shares, but the thought alone must fill people with horror.

Ironically while both MS and S compete Nintendo is ignored and look what happens.

This is why one of my favorite things to happen in 08 was MS casual / family console marketing switch. They know whats going to win them the market share and it isn't what PS3 is aiming for.

In terms of market share im surprised Mitsubishi bank and a car company are still more valuable. I guess when the big US car companies fall apart everyone else does better. Same for the banks too.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

Luthor said:
I agree grampy, there is still cash, but I think they give more money to shareholders than trying to be less conservative in their investments.

 

Entirely depends on dividend payments. Im pretty sure they adjusted dividends down slightly late last yr.

Im aware that Murdoch's Newscorp have shitty dividends but it all goes back into growing the business itself, this might just be what Nintendo prefers to do. I'd prefer them to do this.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

Khuutra said:
leo-j said:
So your telling me the Wii/DS makes more money than Sony BMG, Sony Pictures, and Sony computer entertainment?

mhm..

Actually, no. Sony's revenue is, to quote Grampy's post, "more than eight times as big as Nintendo's."

Nintendo is just absurdly profitable.

The last figure I saw when Sony was making money was that Sony had 8x the revenue but only 1.5x net. Now, of course, the revenue is probably less and I'm not sure of the proper way to express negative net.

 



The stockholders have little enough to complain about, look how well they have come through the recent disaster.



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^ that graph is pretty insane, even with the economic downturn Nintendo is still absurdly high.



Grampy said:

The stockholders have little enough to complain about, look how well they have come through the recent disaster.

 

Hmm. Microsoft's been pretty stable the whole time, and Sony's slump only mirrors the current financial shock



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ph4nt said:
^ that graph is pretty insane, even with the economic downturn Nintendo is still absurdly high.

 

 about 300% over 3 years



Nintendo is more volatile because its not diversified as much, and its share price is higher.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

Just so you guys take this into perspective. If Nintendo stopped making games and only earned money on it's investments alone it would generate at 4% interest 800,000,000$ USD a year. That's just shy of 1 billion. Chances are Nintendo makes more then 4% in interest a year. They probably make just over 5%. Which would put them at 1Billion a year extra in profit. Now you'd have to cut 40% or so off for taxes but that's still a large chunk of change left to grow their bank account.



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