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SamuelRSmith said:
Well, in the UK there are already very, very strict laws on smoking. No smoking in public places (this includes TV studios, bus stops, train stations), huge health warnings on packets (now accompanied by graphic images, I believe), hidden behind counter, no advertising, etc.

I agree with those. What I don't agree with is the fact that they're doing this with one hand, yet introducing 24 hour drinking licenses with the other. Drinking has far more detrimental affects to crime and local environment than smoking.

Also, for people who say shit along the lines of "the Government will change their minds when they realise that tobacco brings in too much money", may I just point out that tobacco duty brings in a mere £7.8 billion a year, that's 1.6% of the government's total income. My source? HM Treasury

I'd love for you to name a single product that brought in more than 7.8 billion last year.

 



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mrstickball said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Well, in the UK there are already very, very strict laws on smoking. No smoking in public places (this includes TV studios, bus stops, train stations), huge health warnings on packets (now accompanied by graphic images, I believe), hidden behind counter, no advertising, etc.

I agree with those. What I don't agree with is the fact that they're doing this with one hand, yet introducing 24 hour drinking licenses with the other. Drinking has far more detrimental affects to crime and local environment than smoking.

Also, for people who say shit along the lines of "the Government will change their minds when they realise that tobacco brings in too much money", may I just point out that tobacco duty brings in a mere £7.8 billion a year, that's 1.6% of the government's total income. My source? HM Treasury

I'd love for you to name a single product that brought in more than 7.8 billion last year.

 

oil and alcohol

 



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mrstickball said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Well, in the UK there are already very, very strict laws on smoking. No smoking in public places (this includes TV studios, bus stops, train stations), huge health warnings on packets (now accompanied by graphic images, I believe), hidden behind counter, no advertising, etc.

I agree with those. What I don't agree with is the fact that they're doing this with one hand, yet introducing 24 hour drinking licenses with the other. Drinking has far more detrimental affects to crime and local environment than smoking.

Also, for people who say shit along the lines of "the Government will change their minds when they realise that tobacco brings in too much money", may I just point out that tobacco duty brings in a mere £7.8 billion a year, that's 1.6% of the government's total income. My source? HM Treasury

I'd love for you to name a single product that brought in more than 7.8 billion last year.

 

 

Alcohol duty - £8.5 billion
Stamp duty - £15.8 billion
Fuel duty - £26.2 billion
Corporation Tax - £51.5 billion
VAT - £85.8 billion
National Insurance - £101 billion
Income Tax - £161.8 billion

Those are the top earners above tobacco, tobacco is the 8th largest earner, but the amount increases rapidly, capital gains tax and inheritance tax is just under tobacco.

Of course, you said product, so that just leaves Alcohol and Fuel.



Is marijuana more dangerous than cigarettes?

I'm allergic to cigarette smoke, it literally kills me.



Governments should force cigarette companies to rename them so young teens don't take it up in the first place.

They should call them poofter poles when boys smoke them and slut sticks for the girls!




*note: This is intended as a joke and I am not intentionally being derogatory towards anyone, whether they be straight, gay, male, female or stinky breath repulsive cigarette smokers.

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llewdebkram said:
Governments should force cigarette companies to rename them so young teens don't take it up in the first place.

They should call them poofter poles when boys smoke them and slut sticks for the girls!




*note: This is intended as a joke and I am not intentionally being derogatory towards anyone, whether they be straight, gay, male, female or stinky breath repulsive cigarette smokers.

:0P

 

Don't know what's a "poofter", but nowadays I've seen many young girls that are proud of being sluts.



Snesboy said:
akuma587 said:

Tobacco - Nah, there is already enough information out there about it to make an informed decision. It does cause a lot of problems for the healthcare system though.

Marijuana - Laws need to be completely reevaluated since they are out of sync with any scientific basis for why the drug should be illegal. Alcohol is far more dangerous than marijuana.

Other narcotics you smoke - Laws are fine for the most part.

 

Agreed. But we banned that in the 20's and look what happened. "Say hello to my little friend" the mafia.

I'm not advocating banning alchohol, but it just makes no sense that alcohol is legal and marijuana is it when any serious scientific study will tell you that alcohol's effect on the human body and on society is far more serious than marijuana's effect.

 



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fazz said:
Is marijuana more dangerous than cigarettes?

I'm allergic to cigarette smoke, it literally kills me.

No, its not.  The additives in cigarettes are what make it dangerous.  Most scientific studies have had a slight or inconclusive correlation between smoking marijuana and getting cancer.

Its also problematic because most people who smoke marijuana also smoke cigarettes, so it can be hard to find people who only smoke marijuana.

 



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

I think its reached the point where everyone knows the dangers of smoking, and now there is no smoking in enclosed public places it only harms the user. So if after all that you want to smoke then you cant really stop them.



No, I am not a smoker, but smoker's rights should be upheld... you have a right to smoke if you choose, unless that person expects me the taxpayer to pickup the bill on their medical expenses, in which case it's no longer a personal decision.



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