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abcdario on 02 January 2009
Dodece said:
I cannot help but notice that others attacked me, but did not explain one critical thing. Where the hell is the PS3 to get these sales. What will be the impetus to maintain the current level of sales. Do not make the same mistake again, and just assume that it being a Playstation means it will sell ten million a year.

The console is out of price position, has the weaker high definition library, has fewer exclusives, and is most likely fast running out of early adopters. Yes eventually the console must actually sell on merit, and that usually means the console must have a positive differentiation from its competition. Basically the PS3 is a pale imitation of the 360. That is a huge problem that not even Nintendo had to deal with. No matter what Nintendo was always a strange alternative. Their first party lineup was a drastic high quality departure from the competition. Sony doesn't even have that. They cannot be the less popular, but still viable alternative.

 

Totally agree =)

 

gavind5uk said:

I dont know why people are comparing PS3 sales to that of GameCube, their demographic is completely different. A future proofed (blue ray) home entertainment system vs a GC? give me strength.

It was Sony's choice to put all their eggs in the blueray basket in order to line it up with their other areas of business so they are on a completely different mission to that of M$ and nintendo, will it work out for them? TIME will tell!

Making grand pronouncements, after just 2 years of the system at its most expensive, especially negative ones when we dont know how the whole media business is going to play out over the next few years is laughable really.

What i would say, given the near 20m sales (at a price that no one can afford apparently), throw on top of that the exclusives coming just this year alone and then say that another 20m (inclusive of future lower prices) is not possible in its lifetime, i think your struggling for credibility there.

I wont even dignify 2.5m 09' sales with a response.


The GCN was about U$149 by this time of their launch while the PS3 is around U$399/U$499 at this time.
The most expensive feature of the PS3 is likely to be the BR, but with the boom in video streaming, it hasnt become that popular and it will take a long time to overtake the DVD.
Now, i dont know if u remember, but the GCN came to U$99 WITH A BUNDLE !, it means, the game for $49 + the GCN $49, and still, didnt sell anything. The GCN had great games, i bought about 30 and kept about 12, everyone talked good about the games, but still their choice for their systems were the "PS2"(a.k.a. Piratation :P)
About my credibility here, mmm, there may be a chance to overtake the X360 and Wii, but they missed the biggest one, MGS 4 and since then, i m very confidend of the path the PS3 is going to take.



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Dgc1808 on 02 January 2009

Yes. Any less than 65 LTD and i'll be a sad puppy



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BTFeather55 on 02 January 2009
Dodece said:
I cannot help but notice that others attacked me, but did not explain one critical thing. Where the hell is the PS3 to get these sales. What will be the impetus to maintain the current level of sales. Do not make the same mistake again, and just assume that it being a Playstation means it will sell ten million a year.

The console is out of price position, has the weaker high definition library, has fewer exclusives, and is most likely fast running out of early adopters. Yes eventually the console must actually sell on merit, and that usually means the console must have a positive differentiation from its competition. Basically the PS3 is a pale imitation of the 360. That is a huge problem that not even Nintendo had to deal with. No matter what Nintendo was always a strange alternative. Their first party lineup was a drastic high quality departure from the competition. Sony doesn't even have that. They cannot be the less popular, but still viable alternative.

 

      Well for one thing, the PS3 is going to have quality exclusives this year and next and FFXIII exclusivity in Japan guarantees at least one million PS3 consoles to be sold in that country on the strength of that title alone.  And the same with FF Versus XIII and now that the PS3 is gaining its footing in Japan you will see more Japanese titles headed its way.

     Then you have the fact that the 360 is going to be phased out in my honest opinion much like the original XBOX at some point during the next two years and prior to the release of Gears of War 3.  The next xbox will either be introduced at this Spring's GDC or next Spring's GDC and 2009 for the 360 is pretty much the same as 2004 or 2005 for the original xbox.  One (or two) big Halo titles to go for the 360 to be released in 2009, then it is into the next stage of the xbox plan which includes Gears 3 being their next console's must have launch title.

     Since the PS3 will be cheaper than it is now, much more technologically capable, and have much bigger games headed its way (aside from the next Zelda and Mario) than the Wii and Wii HD  plus the PS3's having later gen quality games headed its way while the Nextbox's library is just beginning to add its first notable titles other than Gears 3 and with the PS3 being $200.00-$300.00 cheaper than the Nextbox at the same time, then you will see a big push for PS3 during 2009-2012.



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mibuokami on 02 January 2009
BTFeather55 said:
Dodece said:
I cannot help but notice that others attacked me, but did not explain one critical thing. Where the hell is the PS3 to get these sales. What will be the impetus to maintain the current level of sales. Do not make the same mistake again, and just assume that it being a Playstation means it will sell ten million a year.

The console is out of price position, has the weaker high definition library, has fewer exclusives, and is most likely fast running out of early adopters. Yes eventually the console must actually sell on merit, and that usually means the console must have a positive differentiation from its competition. Basically the PS3 is a pale imitation of the 360. That is a huge problem that not even Nintendo had to deal with. No matter what Nintendo was always a strange alternative. Their first party lineup was a drastic high quality departure from the competition. Sony doesn't even have that. They cannot be the less popular, but still viable alternative.

 

Well for one thing, the PS3 is going to have quality exclusives this year and next and FFXIII exclusivity in Japan guarantees at least one million PS3 consoles to be sold in that country on the strength of that title alone. And the same with FF Versus XIII and now that the PS3 is gaining its footing in Japan you will see more Japanese titles headed its way.

Then you have the fact that the 360 is going to be phased out in my honest opinion much like the original XBOX at some point during the next two years and prior to the release of Gears of War 3. The next xbox will either be introduced at this Spring's GDC or next Spring's GDC and 2009 for the 360 is pretty much the same as 2004 or 2005 for the original xbox. One (or two) big Halo titles to go for the 360 to be released in 2009, then it is into the next stage of the xbox plan which includes Gears 3 being their next console's must have launch title.

Since the PS3 will be cheaper than it is now, much more technologically capable, and have much bigger games headed its way (aside from the next Zelda and Mario) than the Wii and Wii HD plus the PS3's having later gen quality games headed its way while the Nextbox's library is just beginning to add its first notable titles other than Gears 3 and with the PS3 being $200.00-$300.00 cheaper than the Nextbox at the same time, then you will see a big push for PS3 during 2009-2012.

Now I must find myself being the devil's advocate, I am fully confident in the PS3's ability to achieve the OP's sale target and beyond but I absolutely refuse to believe that MS will phase out the 360 as per the above. It is recieving excellent third party support and due to the nature of the HD console twin, will continue to be supported so long as the PS3 is. There is no reason for MS to phase out their console before the PS3 unless the next 2-3 years see them losing significant market share.

 

 




BHR-3 on 02 January 2009

what the hell kind of ? is this and why so many post for something insane like this
yes i will 100% guaranteed it will happen in 2010 the real ? is if it can make it passed 70-80mill b4 it's off the market



                                                             

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BTFeather55 on 02 January 2009
mibuokami said:
BTFeather55 said:
Dodece said:
I cannot help but notice that others attacked me, but did not explain one critical thing. Where the hell is the PS3 to get these sales. What will be the impetus to maintain the current level of sales. Do not make the same mistake again, and just assume that it being a Playstation means it will sell ten million a year.

The console is out of price position, has the weaker high definition library, has fewer exclusives, and is most likely fast running out of early adopters. Yes eventually the console must actually sell on merit, and that usually means the console must have a positive differentiation from its competition. Basically the PS3 is a pale imitation of the 360. That is a huge problem that not even Nintendo had to deal with. No matter what Nintendo was always a strange alternative. Their first party lineup was a drastic high quality departure from the competition. Sony doesn't even have that. They cannot be the less popular, but still viable alternative.

 

Well for one thing, the PS3 is going to have quality exclusives this year and next and FFXIII exclusivity in Japan guarantees at least one million PS3 consoles to be sold in that country on the strength of that title alone. And the same with FF Versus XIII and now that the PS3 is gaining its footing in Japan you will see more Japanese titles headed its way.

Then you have the fact that the 360 is going to be phased out in my honest opinion much like the original XBOX at some point during the next two years and prior to the release of Gears of War 3. The next xbox will either be introduced at this Spring's GDC or next Spring's GDC and 2009 for the 360 is pretty much the same as 2004 or 2005 for the original xbox. One (or two) big Halo titles to go for the 360 to be released in 2009, then it is into the next stage of the xbox plan which includes Gears 3 being their next console's must have launch title.

Since the PS3 will be cheaper than it is now, much more technologically capable, and have much bigger games headed its way (aside from the next Zelda and Mario) than the Wii and Wii HD plus the PS3's having later gen quality games headed its way while the Nextbox's library is just beginning to add its first notable titles other than Gears 3 and with the PS3 being $200.00-$300.00 cheaper than the Nextbox at the same time, then you will see a big push for PS3 during 2009-2012.

Now I must find myself being the devil's advocate, I am fully confident in the PS3's ability to achieve the OP's sale target and beyond but I absolutely refuse to believe that MS will phase out the 360 as per the above. It is recieving excellent third party support and due to the nature of the HD console twin, will continue to be supported so long as the PS3 is. There is no reason for MS to phase out their console before the PS3 unless the next 2-3 years see them losing significant market share.

 

 

     Microsoft won't want to release their next console without a big title to sell it.  Right now, the Halo series is on a downturn as far as popularity goes and with ODST set to be Bungie's last Halo game.  The next biggest title in the 360's lineup after Gears is Fable, and it really hasn't shown itself to be much of a system seller.  Gears on the other hand has mass appeal and is Microsoft's biggest property right now.  So, the timing of Gears 3 will be what they use to drive the sales of the next XBOX.  They wouldn't wait on third party games as waiting to sell a $500.00 system wouldn't be determined by third parties since those games will be available on other systems.  Market share has little to do with the MS's plans for the Nextbox; however, Gears of War 3 does.  Also, I would say Epic doesn't want to wait too long to release Gears 3 because they wouldn't want some other property to steal their thunder on the Nextbox as Gears did to a bit of Halo's on the 360.

 



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Cheebee on 02 January 2009

Yeah, well I'm sure it'll hit 40 million eventually. As to when, not a clue, this gen's been crazy so far. :p



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McStormy1 on 02 January 2009

This must be a joke topic. Ps3 will sell 80 million at minimum, most likely 100+ millioni



DragonLord on 02 January 2009

EASILY...Hell, it's already essentially half way there in a little over 2 years. If they sell ps3 for another 6 years, I would be surprised if they don't break 80-100 million after the price get down to the eventual $149-199 range.



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Johann on 02 January 2009

40 million? Sure.
Btw, isn't it amazing that's the first time a non-winner-of-the-gen-console sells that much. Gaming market is growing FAST!
Sw growth is good too I hope, but I'm too lazy to check!



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