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Forums - Gaming - My unpopular assertion #1: Nintendo has no manifest destiny of greatness.

patjuan32 on 29 December 2008
Jo21 said:
scottie said:
So you're saying it's not guaranteed that Nintendo will win the 8th, 9th etc generations? Fair point.

But the difference between Sony and Nintendo is that even Nintendo's darkest hour, the Gamecube, made a tidy profit.

tons of it came from the gameboy advance and games.

 

so is sony making profits, but not from their gaming division.

Jo21, you are changing the subject, Nintendo did make money off the Gamecube. They never sell a system at a loss and make a profit on it and the software.

 

Second post.

 



If Nintendo is successful at the moment, it’s because they are good, and I cannot blame them for that. What we should do is try to be just as good.----Laurent Benadiba

 

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megaman79 on 29 December 2008
patjuan32 said:
megaman79 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Nintendo must continue to disrupt the market, else find themselves once again in last place

 

I said it before and ill say it again. Nintendo needs to have seperate divisions to deal with mature titles along with their standard formula of family (and now touch gen. or casual) games. Give it a new name, Disney make violent films but its under Buena Vista and its an alternative studio name, not under Disney.

If Nintendo did this, they would be able to take risks and ensure brand integrity, even though they could produce as many standard cliche PS360 killers that they want to. I know Disaster was a fukn disaster but perhaps they need to consider seperating divisions in order to take greater risks (risks as in do the same thing as the other 2).

 

I have to disagree with both of these post. Sony was able to sale more consoles for two generations with out disrupting the market. All they did was get a lot of third parties to support them. That's all Nintendo and Microsoft have to do and is actually what Microsoft is doing. This is why the Xbox 360 is causing Sony problems.

The second post states that Nintendo should have two divisions one for muture and the other for their regular games. No, I think one studio could make one or two mature games but Nintendo can not and should not try to make every genre of game. Third parties are developing mature titles for the Xbox 360 and the PS3. Why can't these same third parties develop mature games for the Wii?

Im saying, why not? Im saying if 3rd parties (western) are going to be difficult then why wouldn't Nintendo put time, effort and creativity into mature titles with developed storylines and complex narrative decisions.

They might just ruin the reputation of these other 3rd parties, just like they have with casual game development, and provide incentive for their lost audience.

 



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

scottie on 29 December 2008
patjuan32 said:
Jo21 said:
scottie said:
So you're saying it's not guaranteed that Nintendo will win the 8th, 9th etc generations? Fair point.

But the difference between Sony and Nintendo is that even Nintendo's darkest hour, the Gamecube, made a tidy profit.

tons of it came from the gameboy advance and games.

 

so is sony making profits, but not from their gaming division.

Jo21, you are changing the subject, Nintendo did make money off the Gamecube. They never sell a system at a loss and make a profit on it and the software.

 

Second post.

 

 

Agreed patjuan, the GC in itself was profitable, the PS3 isn't. It's not comparable



Bobbuffalo on 29 December 2008

Well Nintendo learned that with the N64 in a very bitter way. I really doubt they will be that stupid to do that again. They better not. They had done a great job opening the market a little more.

I don't think that Sony's next console would fail as badly as the PS3..but knowing them, who knows.



Bobbuffalo on 29 December 2008

"Nintendo has no manifest destiny of greatness. "

No one has it.

Nintendo learned it.

Microsoft knows it.

Sega learned it a little too late.

I can't understand why Sony didn't. It was too obvious.



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Jo21 on 29 December 2008

again thats not the point, ps3 isn't but sony as a whole company is.

sony (columbia), sony music, and sony (TVs Bravia, Vaios, cameras, mp3 players, car stereo etc).
they are also a semi conductor company they provide technology sensors for cellphone cameras that sony ericsson cybershot range and samsung new innovate cellphone use.

as a whole they are profitable yet they could be making more profits.



misterd on 29 December 2008

Who the hell ever said they did? The Virtual Boy pretty much proved their fallability, and they've not been skating through this generation free of criticisms.

Nintendo is a company that had the right idea at the right time, and is riding it out as long as it can. As we have seen countless times (well, 4 times) each new generation allows the deck to be reshuffled and a new company to emerge victorious.



Smashchu2 on 30 December 2008

Hmmmm. Pretty interesting though there OP.