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karimkassis4life5000 said:
come on it's not a good excuse they could easily have waited a year, and then make the game multi-platform.

 

You know, it's not like developers simply throw out some games in a year. There's a schedule than spans several years, all to make sure the results aren't completely shit in one year and enormous the other. That's why you won't see Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy releasing in the same year, it will hurt SE's share.

SO was planned to be in 2009, and money today is worth more than money tomorrow.



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BengaBenga said:
karimkassis4life5000 said:
come on it's not a good excuse they could easily have waited a year, and then make the game multi-platform.

 

You know, it's not like developers simply throw out some games in a year. There's a schedule than spans several years, all to make sure the results aren't completely shit in one year and enormous the other. That's why you won't see Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy releasing in the same year, it will hurt SE's share.

SO was planned to be in 2009, and money today is worth more than money tomorrow.

 

that would made sense if square enix wasn¡t delaying the PC/ps3 version of last remnant  and holding ps3  NA release til the 360 port is complete.



Jo21 said:
BengaBenga said:
karimkassis4life5000 said:
come on it's not a good excuse they could easily have waited a year, and then make the game multi-platform.

 

You know, it's not like developers simply throw out some games in a year. There's a schedule than spans several years, all to make sure the results aren't completely shit in one year and enormous the other. That's why you won't see Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy releasing in the same year, it will hurt SE's share.

SO was planned to be in 2009, and money today is worth more than money tomorrow.

 

that would made sense if square enix wasn¡t delaying the PC/ps3 version of last remnant  and holding ps3  NA release til the 360 port is complete.

Unless Square is lying, the Playstation 3 is delaying the port of TLR, not Square. Why would a company delay a well-selling game for no reason?

 



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mrstickball said:
Jo21 said:
BengaBenga said:
karimkassis4life5000 said:
come on it's not a good excuse they could easily have waited a year, and then make the game multi-platform.

 

You know, it's not like developers simply throw out some games in a year. There's a schedule than spans several years, all to make sure the results aren't completely shit in one year and enormous the other. That's why you won't see Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy releasing in the same year, it will hurt SE's share.

SO was planned to be in 2009, and money today is worth more than money tomorrow.

 

that would made sense if square enix wasn¡t delaying the PC/ps3 version of last remnant  and holding ps3  NA release til the 360 port is complete.

Unless Square is lying, the Playstation 3 is delaying the port of TLR, not Square. Why would a company delay a well-selling game for no reason?

 

you are completely ignoring the PC version that should be ready and be the best version since its unreal engine 3, also they shouldn't delay ps3 NA version but release as soon it ready and make the 360 port wait, like TLR.

 



Outside of FFXI, Square Enix titles usually hit the PC last.



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Jo21 said:
mrstickball said:
Jo21 said:
BengaBenga said:
karimkassis4life5000 said:
come on it's not a good excuse they could easily have waited a year, and then make the game multi-platform.

 

You know, it's not like developers simply throw out some games in a year. There's a schedule than spans several years, all to make sure the results aren't completely shit in one year and enormous the other. That's why you won't see Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy releasing in the same year, it will hurt SE's share.

SO was planned to be in 2009, and money today is worth more than money tomorrow.

 

that would made sense if square enix wasn¡t delaying the PC/ps3 version of last remnant  and holding ps3  NA release til the 360 port is complete.

Unless Square is lying, the Playstation 3 is delaying the port of TLR, not Square. Why would a company delay a well-selling game for no reason?

 

you are completely ignoring the PC version that should be ready and be the best version since its unreal engine 3, also they shouldn't delay ps3 NA version but release as soon it ready and make the 360 port wait, like TLR.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but The Last Remnant wasn't announced for PC until July of 2008...Whereas the PS3 and X360 versions were announced a year before that. And despite the PC version being announced so late, it has a confirmed launch date...Unlike the PS3 version.



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Seems to me the 360 is actually a better choice than the PS3 if SO4 had to be exclusive. SO does better in the west than in Japan. It's graphics suit the west, it's gameplay suit the west. I would imagine SO4 will actually beat SO3 on the PS2's sales in america and possibly in the Eu as well. In japan I can definetly see it being the best selling rpg on the 360. Maybe get up around 300k after all is said and done.

It should definetly hit a million on the 360. 1.3million seems a bit tough though. I guess maybe it could manage it if there was enough marketing and the reviews were good.



Turkish says and I'm allowed to quote that: Uncharted 3 and God Of War 3 look better than Unreal Engine 4 games will or the tech demo does. Also the Naughty Dog PS3 ENGINE PLAYS better than the UE4 ENGINE.

Phrancheyez said:

Blah, blah.

 

So Phrancheyez... where's your thread about the necessity of FF13V to become a multiplatform?

Oh wait, coherence am overrated, rite?





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Phrancheyez said:

Am I the only person who thinks Star Ocean 4 will massively bomb?  Money hatted or not, I can't figure out a single reason SE would make it 360 exclusive or even timed exclusive, which it seems to be.  Garunteed money, ya-ya-blah-blah.

If Star Ocean hadn't become so popular on SONY platforms, it wouldn't even be worth money hatting.  They're excluding the vast majority of their fans with this game by going to 360.  Do they expect it to move consoles?  Cuz I don't see it doing that.  The majority of Star Ocean fans who have already bought next gen consoles have most likely gotten a PS3, assuming the next Star Ocean would release on it - I'm one of them.  Am I the only one seeing this as a slap in the face?  Out of principal, I'll rent this game for 360 and beat it, and then return it.  If they come out with a PS3 version, I'll buy it.  It's no secret I prefer my PS3 over my 360, but this is a title I fully expected to be, at the very least, multiplat.

With this gaming coming only to 360, at least for the time being, I see it bombing hard.  Very hard.  You don't exclude your entire install base and expect to sell well.  RPG's haven't sold all too well on the 360 since it's release..do they expect this to be any different?

I'm not saying it won't sell..maybe 1 million on 360 before they eventually decide to port it..and by then it's a year old, and the 360 version will be discounted while they expect PS3 owners to pay full price for an old game (yet again), and it won't sell nearly as well as it could if it was a multiplat release..

If you completely exclude your fan base, the value of the game goes down.  If Star Ocean 4 doesn't sell well because they did this, the game won't be worth money-hatting in the future because it will be seen as a bomb.

Whether my logic is spot on or not...how does this move make sense?  By doing this, they're basically saying that money is far more important than their fans.  This is a good way to kill your reputation..and Star Ocean was the only game keeping Square's reputation in tact for me.

Umm im a huge star ocean fan and i went with a 360 instead of a ps3. And i bet alot of people did.

You assume way to much. The ps3 fanbase can not be based that its a bunch of hardcore jrpg fans who migrated.

 



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Fishie said:
leo-j said:
kowenicki said:and ended the year 8 million behind its nearest competition.....  (3 million more than when it launched) 

leo you have reverted to type recently havent you.

 

 

 The ps3 is by no means  a sinking ship, if you consider selling 4 million consoles more than the year before a sinking ship, then idk what is wrong with you.

 

 Of course it sold more in 2008 then it did in 2007 you twit.

In most markets the PS3 was not even launched till March 2k7 or even later.

lol thanks fish i was meaning to say this.

Leo i cant believe you attack 360 sales after what ps3 has been doing lately. Shameful.

the cost of making a ps3 game is also considerably higher then making 360 game...everyone should remember this

 



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