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Am I the only person who thinks Star Ocean 4 will massively bomb?  Money hatted or not, I can't figure out a single reason SE would make it 360 exclusive or even timed exclusive, which it seems to be.  Garunteed money, ya-ya-blah-blah.

If Star Ocean hadn't become so popular on SONY platforms, it wouldn't even be worth money hatting.  They're excluding the vast majority of their fans with this game by going to 360.  Do they expect it to move consoles?  Cuz I don't see it doing that.  The majority of Star Ocean fans who have already bought next gen consoles have most likely gotten a PS3, assuming the next Star Ocean would release on it - I'm one of them.  Am I the only one seeing this as a slap in the face?  Out of principal, I'll rent this game for 360 and beat it, and then return it.  If they come out with a PS3 version, I'll buy it.  It's no secret I prefer my PS3 over my 360, but this is a title I fully expected to be, at the very least, multiplat.

With this gaming coming only to 360, at least for the time being, I see it bombing hard.  Very hard.  You don't exclude your entire install base and expect to sell well.  RPG's haven't sold all too well on the 360 since it's release..do they expect this to be any different?

I'm not saying it won't sell..maybe 1 million on 360 before they eventually decide to port it..and by then it's a year old, and the 360 version will be discounted while they expect PS3 owners to pay full price for an old game (yet again), and it won't sell nearly as well as it could if it was a multiplat release..

If you completely exclude your fan base, the value of the game goes down.  If Star Ocean 4 doesn't sell well because they did this, the game won't be worth money-hatting in the future because it will be seen as a bomb.

Whether my logic is spot on or not...how does this move make sense?  By doing this, they're basically saying that money is far more important than their fans.  This is a good way to kill your reputation..and Star Ocean was the only game keeping Square's reputation in tact for me.



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I'm guessing it will sell about 400 K. The exact same amount as Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery.



it will do as well as the other titles MS bought from Japanese devs.



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

It didnt sell amazingly well on the playstation platforms.. so I wouldnt know.

I do think its a very retarded move to make STAR OCEAN 4 360 exclusive, but oh well.



 

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i expect 150k-180k first week around 250k life in japan. mainly due the install base in japan it's small i doubt it will grow much by january.

400-500k ww.



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SO4 is releasing on 2009 by the time 360 have bigger user base and will do as well as WKC or even better.



SO4 will probably sell pretty well in the West



It will do better than it would being a PS3 exclusive, but worse than being a multiplat. Star Ocean 4 is the last game in the series, so they dont care about the future of SO brand, it will only be used for the remakes after.

It's also very interesting how you say Star Ocean didnt do well on Playstation platforms, I guess 1.3 million copies sold in Japan+North America is a terrible result for an RPG game.

And untill some PS3 jRPG sells much much much better than Lost Odyssey did worldwide I can't take all of these "jRPGs dont sell on 360" claims seriously.




Rei said:
It will do better than it would being a PS3 exclusive, but worse than being a multiplat. Star Ocean 4 is the last game in the series, so they dont care about the future of SO brand, it will only be used for the remakes after.

It's also very interesting how you say Star Ocean didnt do well on Playstation platforms, I guess 1.3 million copies sold in Japan+North America is a terrible result for an RPG game.

And untill some PS3 jRPG sells much much much better than Lost Odyssey did worldwide I can't take all of these "jRPGs dont sell on 360" claims seriously.


i seriously doubt that.

 



Phrancheyez said:

Am I the only person who thinks Star Ocean 4 will massively bomb?  Money hatted or not, I can't figure out a single reason SE would make it 360 exclusive or even timed exclusive, which it seems to be.  Garunteed money, ya-ya-blah-blah.

If Star Ocean hadn't become so popular on SONY platforms, it wouldn't even be worth money hatting.  They're excluding the vast majority of their fans with this game by going to 360.  Do they expect it to move consoles?  Cuz I don't see it doing that.  The majority of Star Ocean fans who have already bought next gen consoles have most likely gotten a PS3, assuming the next Star Ocean would release on it - I'm one of them.  Am I the only one seeing this as a slap in the face?  Out of principal, I'll rent this game for 360 and beat it, and then return it.  If they come out with a PS3 version, I'll buy it.  It's no secret I prefer my PS3 over my 360, but this is a title I fully expected to be, at the very least, multiplat.

With this gaming coming only to 360, at least for the time being, I see it bombing hard.  Very hard.  You don't exclude your entire install base and expect to sell well.  RPG's haven't sold all too well on the 360 since it's release..do they expect this to be any different?

I'm not saying it won't sell..maybe 1 million on 360 before they eventually decide to port it..and by then it's a year old, and the 360 version will be discounted while they expect PS3 owners to pay full price for an old game (yet again), and it won't sell nearly as well as it could if it was a multiplat release..

If you completely exclude your fan base, the value of the game goes down.  If Star Ocean 4 doesn't sell well because they did this, the game won't be worth money-hatting in the future because it will be seen as a bomb.

Whether my logic is spot on or not...how does this move make sense?  By doing this, they're basically saying that money is far more important than their fans.  This is a good way to kill your reputation..and Star Ocean was the only game keeping Square's reputation in tact for me.

Actually im a huge tri-Ace fan and I went with the 360. I simply assumed that once they got rolling this gen I would have to also purchase a PS3, seems Microsoft saved me the money.