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Gnizmo on 29 December 2008

ShadowSoldier said:

Ok so your saying that WKC wont be able to overtake the DQ spin off or any other Xbox game when it goes world wide which it seems more plausible given the fact the game outsold almost every JRPG's release in its stronghold on the Xbox in its first week and your saying it wont overtake any of those LTD sales?

Lets ignore the fact that Dragon Quest Swords has failed to pass a Million and its gone worldwide already or lets forget the fact that all the JRPG's on the 360 were released worldwide and lets look at the Japanese numbers. With The Last Remnant only selling 140,000 so far in Japan WKC has surpassed that. Blue Dragon which has been out since 06 has only 210,000 copies sold in Japan. Lost Odyssey which is the most successful JRPG(WorldWide) on the 360 sold a pitiful 100,000 LTD in Japan. And Finally the Best JRPG on the X360 Tales of Vesperia has only sold 160,000 copies in Japan so far and thats an Established title.


Most Wii RPGs have failed to go the 1m mark while it seems that WKC is on its way


So GTFO

 Those numbers are for Japan only. Given the fact that JRPGs are extremely front loaded, I would say it is a safe bet that WKC will not bet the Japan sales of Dragon Quest Swords. I do like how you put "most" JRPGs on the Wii have failed to hit a million though. There hav been, what, like 3 spin-offs released on it so far? One of them (Tales of) doesn't always hit a million with the main series. games.

If you want to play cheer leader for this game, then go ahead. It has a good first week. It is not a super stellare opening, and not even beyond any reasonable expectations. Come back here when your lofty promises have somehow met up with reality. Until then we have a great opening week for a PS3 game, but nothing even close ground breaking for a JRPG this gen.



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Gnizmo on 29 December 2008
Riachu said:
Slimebeast said:
ShadowSoldier said:

Most Wii RPGs have failed to go the 1m mark while it seems that WKC is on its way


 

 

Anyone who thinks WKC will sell a million is delusional.

No, it isn't.  WKC already got a fifth of the way there in one week.  1 million in Japan alone is a pipe dream but 1 million worldwide? not so much

 

 I would say it is not likely though. Definitaly possible, but slightly less than probable if you follow. The game has done well so far without a doubt. There is no need to add any qualifiers like "HD JRPGs" to praise the games sales (although it is a bit overboard to create a thread for it). I am curious how it will do in America though.



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The Anarchyz on 29 December 2008

Then i'm delusional...



Slimebeast on 29 December 2008
Riachu said:
Slimebeast said:
ShadowSoldier said:

Most Wii RPGs have failed to go the 1m mark while it seems that WKC is on its way


 

 

Anyone who thinks WKC will sell a million is delusional.

No, it isn't.  WKC already got a fifth of the way there in one week.  1 million in Japan alone is a pipe dream but 1 million worldwide? not so much

 

Everyone knows that Japan first week sales account for rufly 2/3 of total sales in that region.

I want to know why you think WKC has a chance to sell over 700,000 copies in the West. It got only 29/40 on Famitsu, so the scores on Gamerankings will be terrible, guaranteed. Seriously - give me arguments what WKC has that ToV, LO, BD, LR, IU didn't? Western marketing á la Lost Odyssey? 

I have seen no hype whatsoever for WKC in the recent 6 months (but then Im not sure if it's release is imminent in the West.. what are the release dates?). The game is almost dead on Gametrailers, Gamespot, IGN, Gamespy etc.



markers on 29 December 2008
Gnizmo said:
Riachu said:
Slimebeast said:
ShadowSoldier said:

Most Wii RPGs have failed to go the 1m mark while it seems that WKC is on its way


 

 

Anyone who thinks WKC will sell a million is delusional.

No, it isn't.  WKC already got a fifth of the way there in one week.  1 million in Japan alone is a pipe dream but 1 million worldwide? not so much

 

 I would say it is not likely though. Definitaly possible, but slightly less than probable if you follow. The game has done well so far without a doubt. There is no need to add any qualifiers like "HD JRPGs" to praise the games sales (although it is a bit overboard to create a thread for it). I am curious how it will do in America though.

imo i always thought wkc had more of a western feel. like it was made to sell better in america, but maybe thats just me.

 



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DMeisterJ on 29 December 2008
c0rd said:
dolemit3 said:
Skittles said:
Groucho said:

Why is this a surprise?

The number of PS3s in Japan easily tops the number of 360s. Of course it would be the largest HD JRPG in Japan ever released... its like.. the PS3's first JRPG. (I don't count Folklore and VC as traditional JRPGs)

Why haven't Wii JRPGS sold tons then

Because the Wii owners, unlike the PS3 owners don't care less for JRPGs. Mario games only for them.

Haven't you noticed why DMJ had to include the "HD" JRPG as a conditional?

Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors Square Enix 0.50m
Pokemon Batoru Reboryūshon Nintendo 0.31m
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World Namco Bandai 0.22m

WKC has yet to top any of these. It will overtake the Tales spinoff next week, but lifetime against Pokemon should be close. It doesn't have a chance at the Dragon Quest spinoff.

Big name JRPG's on the Wii will sell, period. Have we already forgotten the announcement that DQX is arriving on the Wii? edit: Forgot to mention MH3. Only Mario on the Wii, right?


OT: Sales are a little better than I expected, not bad. Still, the PS3 hasn't quite yet proven it can sell JRPG's better than the 360 worldwide, which was the argument (I thought) some of the "Xbots" claimed, one I agree with. As for people calling Square-Enix idiots for putting their games on the 360, I'm not sure what to think... if you're implying WKC showed the PS3 is a more viable JRPG platform, I suggest looking at the Wii's DQ spinoff, which opened at 310k first week over a year ago.

If you read the thread, I said HD because 360 owners said that out of the HD consoles, that the PS3 has not proven itself to sell JRPGs, while the 360 has.  I also explained this in another post, but apparently you lack reading comprehension skills.

I also said that Wii/DS/PSP own in JRPG sales.



rukusa on 29 December 2008
Slimebeast said:

Everyone knows that Japan first week sales account for rufly 2/3 of total sales in that region.

I want to know why you think WKC has a chance to sell over 700,000 copies in the West. It got only 29/40 on Famitsu, so the scores on Gamerankings will be terrible, guaranteed. Seriously - give me arguments what WKC has that ToV, LO, BD, LR, IU didn't? Marketing á la Lost Odyssey? 

 

I wonder why you believe that it will stop up at 300.ooo. Lets wait and see till the sales figures reach a static growth before arriving at that conclusion.

 



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Gnizmo on 29 December 2008

Slimebeast said:

Everyone knows that Japan first week sales account for rufly 2/3 of total sales in that region.

I want to know why you think WKC has a chance to sell over 700,000 copies in the West. It got only 29/40 on Famitsu, so the scores on Gamerankings will be terrible, guaranteed. Seriously - give me arguments what WKC has that ToV, LO, BD, LR, IU didn't? Marketing á la Lost Odyssey?

 Famistu gave SSBB a 40/40. They are hardly any kind of indication as to what western reviewers will give a game. As for what the game has, well I would say it has a much better development team behind it. Level 5 has gotten quite the cult following in recent years, and offers a very consistent experience. By all accounts it is similar to their other games, which have been recieved fairly well. Do you have a real arguement aganst it?



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Riachu on 29 December 2008
Slimebeast said:
Riachu said:
Slimebeast said:
ShadowSoldier said:

Most Wii RPGs have failed to go the 1m mark while it seems that WKC is on its way


 

 

Anyone who thinks WKC will sell a million is delusional.

No, it isn't. WKC already got a fifth of the way there in one week. 1 million in Japan alone is a pipe dream but 1 million worldwide? not so much

 

Everyone knows that Japan first week sales account for rufly 2/3 of total sales in that region.

I want to know why you think WKC has a chance to sell over 700,000 copies in the West. It got only 29/40 on Famitsu, so the scores on Gamerankings will be terrible, guaranteed. Seriously - give me arguments what WKC has that ToV, LO, BD, LR, IU didn't? Western marketing á la Lost Odyssey?

 

Actually, if you think about it, WKC seems to appeal to Western audiences more than the Japanese.  I think the game will actually get pretty good reviews as well as good marketing.

 



 

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MontanaHatchet on 29 December 2008
Slimebeast said:
Riachu said:
Slimebeast said:
ShadowSoldier said:

Most Wii RPGs have failed to go the 1m mark while it seems that WKC is on its way


 

 

Anyone who thinks WKC will sell a million is delusional.

No, it isn't.  WKC already got a fifth of the way there in one week.  1 million in Japan alone is a pipe dream but 1 million worldwide? not so much

 

Everyone knows that Japan first week sales account for rufly 2/3 of total sales in that region.

I want to know why you think WKC has a chance to sell over 700,000 copies in the West. It got only 29/40 on Famitsu, so the scores on Gamerankings will be terrible, guaranteed. Seriously - give me arguments what WKC has that ToV, LO, BD, LR, IU didn't? Western marketing á la Lost Odyssey? 

I have seen no hype whatsoever for WKC in the recent 6 months (but then Im not sure if it's release is imminent in the West.. what are the release dates?). The game is almost dead on Gametrailers, Gamespot, IGN, Gamespy etc.

Yeah, everyone knows that a game's first week in Japan is 2/3 of its lifetime sales there. That's why there are hundreds of counterexamples to disprove that. Oh wait, that doesn't make any sense.

White Knight may not sell 700k copies combined with America and PAL, and maybe it will. Definitely possible, but it's tough to say. If American sales could surpass the Japanese sales (which happens with a lot of JRPGs) then it would have a good chance. Tales of Vesperia is the best scoring JRPG on the 360 (as to my knowledge) but look at its sales compared to lesser scoring games. Lost Odyssey sold tons more in the west with lower review scores. Lost Odyssey may still have a chance at a million, and were its Japanese sales higher, it would definitely reach that goal. If White Knight has lots of commercials in the west, it would sell well there.

As for hype on game sites, there was almost no hype for a lot of 360 JRPGs until a couple days or weeks before they came out in the west. You're certainly not going to see many Japanese gamers on English-speaking forums, and American/PAL gamers aren't going to hype themselves to hell for a game that doesn't even have an announced release date in their regions. Stop with the Sony hate. It's stale.