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Its because of the resolution. Its not rocket science really, you can tell the difference in your PC alone. If you switch to 640 by 480 then 1024 by 768 but I doubt even new standard TVs used 640 by 480 anymore. And yeah, 360 games cant do real HD. I've seen it in James Bond demo on plasma TV in a electronic shop ITS DIFFERENT, very very different. Compared it to games in the 360 its like you're just watching a video game with good graphics. BTW, most 360 games are 740 p even you turn the resolution of your 360 in 1080p.

Thats one of the main reasons why Im disappointed with the 360 and just use it just to play games the hype about 360 was really hype you know, no substance.



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

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500,000 units should make most Wii games profitable and any game that makes profit is a success to me.

The Conduit should sell more than 500,000 but I'm not sure if it can do 1 mil since FPS doesn't sell that well on Wii. (MP3 doesn't even hit 2 mil :()

I think MadWorld would sell more than Zack&Wiki/NMH and make Sega some money as well.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

saicho said:
500,000 units should make most Wii games profitable and any game that amkes profit is a success to me.

The Conduit should sell more than 500,000 but I'm not sure if it can do 1 mil since FPS doesn't sell that well on Wii. (MP3 doesn't even hit 2 mil :()

I think MadWorld would sell more than Zack&Wiki/NMH and make Sega some money as well.

 

And definitely not enough sales to make profit. I think SEGA will be bankrupt and HVS is the cause.



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

Ok sure HVS is great and all, but do you really think theyd risk thir jobs over a project? All the cash theve gotten (BEN10 much?), its there. The Conduit is a considerable investment from their part, but not enough to sign bankruptcy over a failure.

If The Conduit sells 500k i think HVS will do fine. People have said before that many quality HD games would cut even with 500K, so apply that to The Conduit.




yushire said:
saicho said:
500,000 units should make most Wii games profitable and any game that amkes profit is a success to me.

The Conduit should sell more than 500,000 but I'm not sure if it can do 1 mil since FPS doesn't sell that well on Wii. (MP3 doesn't even hit 2 mil :()

I think MadWorld would sell more than Zack&Wiki/NMH and make Sega some money as well.

 

And definitely not enough sales to make profit. I think SEGA will be bankrupt and HVS is the cause.

 

Or it sells really well and makes Sega a lot of money, and look nearly as good as a 360 FPS game on a SD TV.  Anyways, this discussion is really moot at this point.  Once the game launches, then we can actually get some facts about it's quality and sales data instead of predictions all over the map...



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yushire said:
saicho said:
500,000 units should make most Wii games profitable and any game that amkes profit is a success to me.

The Conduit should sell more than 500,000 but I'm not sure if it can do 1 mil since FPS doesn't sell that well on Wii. (MP3 doesn't even hit 2 mil :()

I think MadWorld would sell more than Zack&Wiki/NMH and make Sega some money as well.

 

And definitely not enough sales to make profit. I think SEGA will be bankrupt and HVS is the cause.

I doubt Sega would go under even if The Conduit only sells 250,000. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games made them enough money to stay afloat for a while.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

irstupid said:
i hate any argument of someone saying on the consoles userbase 500k is a shitty number or whatever.

so then what was god of war that sold 3 million or whatever it was on a 125 million console a huge failure beyond belief. I mean seriously that is like 1:40 attach ratio. That is just pathetic eh?

 

but that was on the PS2, we all know that doesn't count when we are Wii-bashing now...

 

:P



saicho said:
yushire said:
saicho said:
500,000 units should make most Wii games profitable and any game that amkes profit is a success to me.

The Conduit should sell more than 500,000 but I'm not sure if it can do 1 mil since FPS doesn't sell that well on Wii. (MP3 doesn't even hit 2 mil :()

I think MadWorld would sell more than Zack&Wiki/NMH and make Sega some money as well.

 

And definitely not enough sales to make profit. I think SEGA will be bankrupt and HVS is the cause.

I doubt Sega would go under even if The Conduit only sells 250,000. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games made them enough money to stay afloat for a while.

 

 ummm. I am pretty sure if the conduit sells 500k both companies will be okay. the Conduit is a big budget game as far as 3rd party Wii games go... I mean they may only break even at best with the conduit, but I do not see it having the risk that Haze and Lair did (I am willing to bet those games cost 2x as much to make as the Conduit)

Basically, the conduit's budget is top the line for the Wii. But if it had the same budget and was a HD game it would be middle of the line, like say maybe DMC or something slightly big but nothing like GTA4 or MGS4 or Halo or whatnot that HAD to sell like 2 million just to break even....

 

You see I think HVS is pretty smart on this, they could use a budget that is unheard of for the Wii get lots of hype, and maybe have a runaway hit, there is really no competition in what they are doing, OR they could use the same budget to make a "good" HD game that would stand out in no way and get swallowed up by the plethora big budget games.

They are betting that the fact that there game will be head and shoulders above all other 3rd party projects on the Wii will help it overcome and hardcore deficiancies the Wii may have.



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

jlauro said:

 

Or it sells really well and makes Sega a lot of money, and look nearly as good as a 360 FPS game on a SD TV.  Anyways, this discussion is really moot at this point.  Once the game launches, then we can actually get some facts about it's quality and sales data instead of predictions all over the map...

 

 In all of the game sales on the Wii in past 2 years, theres one fact remain; Wii games arent frontloaded even how much you advertised it *cough*COD WAW*cough*

So unless there are other things that the conduit can do for gamers to buy it we glad that it will sell 100,000 in its first week. So if the conduit must sell 1 million to break even then they have to wait 2-6 months to get it.

@voltaire-----> Just an advice if you want to rant dont use the f word and its not f**k Im talking about.

 



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

yushire said:
jlauro said:

 

Or it sells really well and makes Sega a lot of money, and look nearly as good as a 360 FPS game on a SD TV.  Anyways, this discussion is really moot at this point.  Once the game launches, then we can actually get some facts about it's quality and sales data instead of predictions all over the map...

 

 In all of the game sales on the Wii in past 2 years, theres one fact remain; Wii games arent frontloaded even how much you advertised it *cough*COD WAW*cough*

So unless there are other things that the conduit can do for gamers to buy it we glad that it will sell 100,000 in its first week. So if the conduit must sell 1 million to break even then they have to wait 2-6 months to get it.

@voltaire-----> Just an advice if you want to rant dont use the f word and its not f**k Im talking about.

 

they did not start advertising CODwaw until December, when the holiday rush started in earnest.

 also to add, wii games CAN be front loaded *good openings* with some hype, See SSBB, MKWii, SMG, and WiiFit.

I am gonna predict 175k in NA first week and 85k in Others, so 270k ww assuming maybe 10k in Japan, IF!! it get really good reviews (like 92 meta or above) maybe up to 400k WW first week

(the 270k was assuming it get around an 85 meta, if it really sucks, it deserves to bomb)



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut