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Moongoddess256 said:
damkira said:

@strategyking92

I never said you were stupid. Just misguided and misinformed.

 

 

I can't believe you even graced that with a response.

 

Where he's from, the worst insult is to call someone liberal or gay (or "negro") so I guess he was flaming me pretty bad.. but people are products of their environment so I can't really hold a grudge against him for not knowing any better.

 

 



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colonelstubbs said:
Any plans to release it as a single?

 

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The Ghost of RubangB said:
Strategyking92 said:
Moongoddess256 said:
damkira said:

@strategyking92

I never said you were stupid. Just misguided and misinformed.

 

 

I can't believe you even graced that with a response.

I can't believe... you graced that with a response with a response?

 

Anyway; Mask words however you want.

 

All I'm saying is that the base word negro isn't offensive in itself, only when used wrongly. But then, I guess alot of words would be offensive if used wrongly. The song is stupid, and a big mistake, but it isn't racist or anything, even if it looks like it.I mean, would a politician honestly come out and just start throwing the N-word around? I don't think so.. Unless some old-time democrats are still living :P

I would love to hear a single example of anybody using the word without it being very racially charged.  Like a salesman coming to your door, "Good afternoong my fine negro neighbor!  How are you today?"  They might be friendly as hell and not racist, but if they say that and don't get hurt or immediatlely thrown out, I'd be very surprised.

Try using it in public in a neutral fashion, in front of some blacks, and report back to us.

Any spanish speaking country in the world comes to mind.

 



damkira said:
Moongoddess256 said:
damkira said:

@strategyking92

I never said you were stupid. Just misguided and misinformed.

 

 

I can't believe you even graced that with a response.

 

Where he's from, the worst insult is to call someone liberal or gay (or "negro") so I guess he was flaming me pretty bad.. but people are products of their environment so I can't really hold a grudge against him for not knowing any better.

 

 

 

whoa, because I'm from the south you think I'm racist? Not so.

In fact, when your father is in the military you get many chances to be around different colored peoples. Hell, I'm 1/8 hispanic, 1/16 cherokee, and the rest is a mix of Irish and English.  I know it ain't anything special, but I'm happy about where I come from.

The reason I think you're a south-hating liberal is from your posts on here. Not because of any blind hate. You have clearly shown your true colors. And the gay part... well that's obvious, you are. I guess I shouldn't have included it, but I felt it just made my point stronger. Although, It is true some people down here are stupid (at least at my school, As I have a 4.0 so far and am in all the advanced classes. Florida had a much better eductional system.)

I think you are the one who is prejudice, assuming the majority of southerners are racists and such. Times have changed since the 70's



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Strategyking92 said:
damkira said:
Moongoddess256 said:
damkira said:

@strategyking92

I never said you were stupid. Just misguided and misinformed.

 

 

I can't believe you even graced that with a response.

 

Where he's from, the worst insult is to call someone liberal or gay (or "negro") so I guess he was flaming me pretty bad.. but people are products of their environment so I can't really hold a grudge against him for not knowing any better.

 

 

 

whoa, because I'm from the south you think I'm racist? Not so.

In fact, when your father is in the military you get many chances to be around different colored peoples. Hell, I'm 1/8 hispanic, 1/16 cherokee, and the rest is a mix of Irish and English.  I know it ain't anything special, but I'm happy about where I come from.

The reason I think you're a south-hating liberal is from your posts on here. Not because of any blind hate. You have clearly shown your true colors. And the gay part... well that's obvious, you are. I guess I shouldn't have included it, but I felt it just made my point stronger. Although, It is true some people down here are stupid (at least at my school, As I have a 4.0 so far and am in all the advanced classes. Florida had a much better eductional system.)

I think you are the one who is prejudice, assuming the majority of southerners are racists and such. Times have changed since the 70's

Ha. First of all no one has used the term "colored" since the 50's. You ,also, can never make a point stronger by stating the obvious it makes you look stupid. On top of that I dont know if any one told you mr. 4.0 but when using the term negro as reference to a black person IS racist as the term negro is defined as plainly put "an ignorant person". Furthermore while  Obama is going to be a wonderful president callling him a "magical negro" is not exactly a term of endearment.



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Kasz216 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Strategyking92 said:
Moongoddess256 said:
damkira said:

@strategyking92

I never said you were stupid. Just misguided and misinformed.

 

 

I can't believe you even graced that with a response.

I can't believe... you graced that with a response with a response?

 

Anyway; Mask words however you want.

 

All I'm saying is that the base word negro isn't offensive in itself, only when used wrongly. But then, I guess alot of words would be offensive if used wrongly. The song is stupid, and a big mistake, but it isn't racist or anything, even if it looks like it.I mean, would a politician honestly come out and just start throwing the N-word around? I don't think so.. Unless some old-time democrats are still living :P

I would love to hear a single example of anybody using the word without it being very racially charged.  Like a salesman coming to your door, "Good afternoong my fine negro neighbor!  How are you today?"  They might be friendly as hell and not racist, but if they say that and don't get hurt or immediatlely thrown out, I'd be very surprised.

Try using it in public in a neutral fashion, in front of some blacks, and report back to us.

Any spanish speaking country in the world comes to mind.

 

 

That's because they speak spanish in spanish speaking countries.  Different language groups, countries, cultures, and societies have different standards for what are acceptable modern practices.  In the United States (minus Tennessee?) it is not ok for a white person to call a black person a "negro".



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

I'm not sure whats more amusing...that this guy thought this was a good idea or Akuma's comments in this thread.

On the one hand you have a complete boneheaded move and on the other hand you have a liberal playing the elitist liberal stereo type down to the letter. From knowing better than everyone else and at one point even flatly saying he would make a better republican strategist than republican strategists, all the while continuing the tradition of "repeat it until its true".

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Are we there yet? We might need a few more pages to wash away the facts of the matter...but then again who knows history anymore anyways? The lie that republicans are racists is nearly complete.

Good times =)

PS - I thought liberals decided a long time ago that stereotypes were a terrible thing that should be combated? I guess just this once it is "A-OK" though huh?



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You know what's really funny, is that a lot of Republicans are saying the EXACT SAME THING I AM SAYING.  They must be liberal elites!  There is a difference between ideology and using your brain.

Sqrl, common sense is not liberal elitism.  Awareness of what you should and shouldn't do as a politician is not liberal elitism.  Obama saying something about people "clinging to guns and religion" is a comparable faux pas.  It may very well be true, but it sure as hell is a stupid thing to get caught on tape saying.  And that was accidental!  This guy actually sent these things out himself!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/29/saltsman.obama.song/index.html

GOP reaction divided over controversial Obama song

(CNN) -- Republican Party reaction is divided over the decision of a candidate for party chairman to distribute a CD that features the parody tune "Barack the Magic Negro," with the majority of Chip Saltsman's political rivals criticizing the move.

Chip Saltsman has been criticized by some of his rivals for the RNC chairmanship.

Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan -- battling to keep his job as head of the party -- was the first prominent member of the GOP to criticize Saltsman for sending committee members the song.

"The 2008 election was a wake-up call for Republicans to reach out and bring more people into our party," Duncan said in a Saturday statement. "I am shocked and appalled that anyone would think this is appropriate, as it clearly does not move us in the right direction."

He is one of several candidates running to replace Duncan in the closely contested race to lead the Republican Party.

Michigan party chairman Saul Anuzis also questioned Saltsman's judgment.

"In my opinion, this isn't funny and it's in bad taste," he said in a statement. "Just as important, anything that paints the GOP as being motivated in our criticism of President-elect Obama by anything other than a difference in philosophy does a disservice to our party." 

Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer -- who has reportedly been weighing a run for the party's top spot, but has not officially announced a bid -- released a Monday morning statement praising candidates who have weighed in against the "racially insulting song."

"As the GOP Chairman in one of our nation's most ethnically and culturally diverse states, I am especially disappointed by the inappropriate words and actions we've seen over the past few days," he said. "I am proud of those party leaders who have stood up in firm opposition to this type of behavior."

"Actions such as the distribution of this CD, regardless of intent, only serves to promote divisiveness and distracts us from our common goal of building our party."

For Christmas, Saltsman sent RNC members the parody CD "We Hate the USA," which includes the controversial tune. He defended his decision Friday, telling CNN the song was clearly intended as a joke.

"I think most people recognize political satire when they see it," Saltsman told CNN. "I think RNC members understand that."

Saltsman, a former chair of the Tennessee Republican Party, was a top adviser to former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and managed former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's presidential campaign.

The song, set to the tune of the 1960s folk song "Puff the Magic Dragon," was first played on Rush Limbaugh's radio show in 2007. Its title was drawn from a Los Angeles Times column that suggested Obama appealed to those who feel guilty about the nation's history of mistreatment of African-Americans.

Saltsman said the song, penned by longtime friend Paul Shanklin, should be easily recognized as satire directed at the Times.

The CD includes parody songs referencing former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, among other targets.

Ken Blackwell -- one of two African-American candidates for party chairman -- agreed with Saltsman's assessment, defending him in a weekend statement.

"Unfortunately, there is hypersensitivity in the press regarding matters of race," said Blackwell -- who, if elected, would be the first black chairman of the RNC. "This is in large measure due to President-elect Obama being the first African-American elected president.

"I don't think any of the concerns that have been expressed in the media about any of the other candidates for RNC chairman should disqualify them. When looked at in the proper context, these concerns are minimal. All of my competitors for this leadership post are fine people."

But some younger members of the party were less understanding, as the debate over the satire spread through conservative circles. 

James Richardson, the RNC's online communication manager for the 2008 election cycle, called Saltsman's move "quite the revealing faux pas."

"Granted, he didn't pull a George Allen and personally call Obama a 'magic Negro,' but sending a CD with those lyrics shortly after electing the first African-American president -- one supported by nearly 97 percent of the African-American community -- shows a serious lack of judgment, tact and the necessary level of racial sensitivity expected of public officials," wrote Richardson, a Red State contributor, on conservative blog The Skepticians.

"And while I'm sure Saltsman doesn't espouse racist sentiments, this will undoubtedly be spun as an angry, white Southerner stoking the flames of racial tensions after losing to a minority candidate," Richardson wrote. "Hell, why don't we go ahead and give 'em the other 3 percent, too, Chip?"

Most of the candidates for RNC chairman -- including Saltsman, Anuzis, Blackwell and Greer -- will face off in one week in Washington in a public debate sponsored by Americans for Tax Reform. Duncan, who has been invited, has not yet confirmed his attendance.



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damkira said:
Strategyking92 said:
damkira said:
Moongoddess256 said:
damkira said:

@strategyking92

I never said you were stupid. Just misguided and misinformed.

 

 

I can't believe you even graced that with a response.

 

Where he's from, the worst insult is to call someone liberal or gay (or "negro") so I guess he was flaming me pretty bad.. but people are products of their environment so I can't really hold a grudge against him for not knowing any better.

 

 

 

whoa, because I'm from the south you think I'm racist? Not so.

In fact, when your father is in the military you get many chances to be around different colored peoples. Hell, I'm 1/8 hispanic, 1/16 cherokee, and the rest is a mix of Irish and English.  I know it ain't anything special, but I'm happy about where I come from.

The reason I think you're a south-hating liberal is from your posts on here. Not because of any blind hate. You have clearly shown your true colors. And the gay part... well that's obvious, you are. I guess I shouldn't have included it, but I felt it just made my point stronger. Although, It is true some people down here are stupid (at least at my school, As I have a 4.0 so far and am in all the advanced classes. Florida had a much better eductional system.)

I think you are the one who is prejudice, assuming the majority of southerners are racists and such. Times have changed since the 70's

Ha. First of all no one has used the term "colored" since the 50's. You ,also, can never make a point stronger by stating the obvious it makes you look stupid. On top of that I dont know if any one told you mr. 4.0 but when using the term negro as reference to a black person IS racist as the term negro is defined as plainly put "an ignorant person". Furthermore while  Obama is going to be a wonderful president callling him a "magical negro" is not exactly a term of endearment.

Uh? Ok? I think that blind southern-hatred is seeping through again Because I never said anything remotely to what you are accusing me of.

I was never trying to show my intelligence (although you attacked it), just trying to show you some middle ground.

Well, if you called a toilet a "magical toilet" it might be a term of endearment or a bridge a "magical bridge"....... Or a president a "magical predident".... I mean, do any of those sound wrong at all? (I'm pretty sure magical toilets are real... In japan, by the way.)

I'm just saying even though it was a bone-headed move, it was clearly a joke in good fun.  Lets hope they don't make the mistake again... Or they can, later on, when people can stop being stupid about vocal sounds.

I wish nobody thought anything is even remotely racist.... Oh, a "magical" world that would be

 



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I think you misunderstood Akuma, I don't disagree that this was foolish. I don't think I said anything to give that impression honestly. I was just laughing at the irony of someone falling into a stereotype perpetuated by the people they are stereotyping while perpetuating a stereotype about a group of people who hypocritically dislike stereotypes. A perfect symbol of the silliness of politics in general I'd say.

Sorry if that wasn't very clear, but I'm not sure how clear it can be made to be short of a diagram. Its just a jumbled mess of irony that I found amusing the way I saw it. /shrug

Anyways, I'm not sure what common sense there is in claiming you're a better republican strategist than republicans...seems like the very definition of elitist thinking to me. The point is that everyone takes the elitist 'tude from time to time (I definitely did on the Mumbai attack story about the cops not doing anything) the same as everyone does something without considering the repercussions from time to time...sort of like this scenario. Hence the circle of irony is complete.

I don't know how to better explain it than that but if it makes you feel any better it honestly wasn't intended to be an attack at you.



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