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Barozi said:
bouzane said:
@Barozi

I'm not into FPS as much as I used to be but I still fancy the standout titles in the genre :P

See and you have Call of Duty 4. Hasn't it given you a special feeling because of the atmosphere? For example when the atomic bomb is exploded and you crawl out of your helicopter just to see the destroyed area or when you played Captain Price in Chernobyl.

Well World at War has such moments as well.

That was a fantastic scene indeed but I still don't feel the same way about CoD4 as I did about Quake, System Shock 2, Unreal Tournament, Deus Ex, Metroid Prime or Half-Life 2. I just feel that while the FPS genre is continuing to make improvements, it just isn't making the same leaps and bounds as it used to.



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bouzane said:
Barozi said:
bouzane said:
@Barozi

I'm not into FPS as much as I used to be but I still fancy the standout titles in the genre :P

See and you have Call of Duty 4. Hasn't it given you a special feeling because of the atmosphere? For example when the atomic bomb is exploded and you crawl out of your helicopter just to see the destroyed area or when you played Captain Price in Chernobyl.

Well World at War has such moments as well.

That was a fantastic scene indeed but I still don't feel the same way about CoD4 as I did about Quake, System Shock 2, Unreal Tournament, Deus Ex, Metroid Prime or Half-Life 2. I just feel that while the FPS genre is continuing to make improvements, it just isn't making the same leaps and bounds as it used to.

Well I think it's far easier to make an original FPS when you can completely random choose your storyline, but well Call of Duty is about realism and they do that pretty good.

The games you named are very futuristic amd some of them multiplayer only.



Barozi said:
bouzane said:
Barozi said:
bouzane said:
@Barozi

I'm not into FPS as much as I used to be but I still fancy the standout titles in the genre :P

See and you have Call of Duty 4. Hasn't it given you a special feeling because of the atmosphere? For example when the atomic bomb is exploded and you crawl out of your helicopter just to see the destroyed area or when you played Captain Price in Chernobyl.

Well World at War has such moments as well.

That was a fantastic scene indeed but I still don't feel the same way about CoD4 as I did about Quake, System Shock 2, Unreal Tournament, Deus Ex, Metroid Prime or Half-Life 2. I just feel that while the FPS genre is continuing to make improvements, it just isn't making the same leaps and bounds as it used to.

Well I think it's far easier to make an original FPS when you can completely random choose your storyline, but well Call of Duty is about realism and they do that pretty good.

The games you named are very futuristic amd some of them multiplayer only.

They have done admirably considering the constraints of maintaining realism. However, this strive towards realism is still a limitation that I think is preventing the genre from incorporating innovative new ideas which I would prefer to the current direction that the genre is taking. I mentioned the games that I did because they were fun and original, I wish that Activision could do the same and forget about slight improvements to the same formula because it grows old and stale which I guess was the point of this thread.

 



With Current costs of development on HD consoles it's very risky to create a new, fresh gaming experience and commit to it resources and time, if it bombs a studio might never recover from it. Releasing only Big Titles With ridicilous amount of hype behind it that are only transformations of previous games is a safe bet for developers and publishes, and those big titles tend to get all the sales and attention.

Why wont anyone make a CoD or a good shooter game set in a Vietnam War? That would be a sick game , also multiplayer wise.



i think they can't make a game out of the vietnam war coz it was a rather embarrassing situation for the united states..



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i think remades are not worth it, especially if u dont much to it,
new controls? new graphics won't make me play the game again, i already play FF4 on the nes, metroid on the gc.


the only game i would replay would be ff7 on hd.



It's all in the $$$ man. Developers create whatever sells. The sales of rehashes means most people can't wait to buy the next one.

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I can't believe you didn't mention the Guitar hero franchise. At least, animal crossing waited 6 years and cod waited a year before their rehashes. How many GH games are there now and whats the difference?



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When we talk about genres, there are a lot of things that are carried over to future installments. That's why we can categorize games: they have common elements from predecessors.

How much innovation do we need to classify a genre game that is far from rehash?

COD based on the future (we'll end up Halo-like or Resistance-like there)? A Zelda game with a non-humanoid character (we'll end up with Okami there)? WoW with technology (World of Starcraft)?

What's the innovation of Street Fighter IV, anyway?

Really, if we see something truly groundbreaking, then it'll probably be a new genre altogether. And then developers will make games on that genre. And then, it'll feel like rehash all over again.



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Well, developers keep making those games because people buy them. Different, more original games typically sell a lot less. People want the tried and true formula. Over and over again. As to why, I dunno. Haven't got a clue. I've never played any of these FPS WWII or EA Sports games at all, they just don't interest me. And I totally fail to see what others see in them. But well, that's how it goes with all popular products. Movies, music, games... people just buy the mainstream crap, the stuff that's been done before to death. That's never gonna change.



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