By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Nintendo - 1UP.com and Wii. PLEASE READ.

1up's anti-Wii bias has been well-known since well before the console's release. It affects most other so-called
"professional" review outlets, but most will at least pretend to give the Wii a fair shake from time to time.



Complexity is not depth. Machismo is not maturity. Obsession is not dedication. Tedium is not challenge. Support gaming: support the Wii.

Be the ultimate ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today! Poisson Village welcomes new players.

What do I hate about modern gaming? I hate tedium replacing challenge, complexity replacing depth, and domination replacing entertainment. I hate the outsourcing of mechanics to physics textbooks, art direction to photocopiers, and story to cheap Hollywood screenwriters. I hate the confusion of obsession with dedication, style with substance, new with gimmicky, old with obsolete, new with evolutionary, and old with time-tested.
There is much to hate about modern gaming. That is why I support the Wii.

Around the Network

Let's see, IGN sucks because of it's wii bias (such as the article "Nintendo has abandoned the hardcore"), gamespot is supposedly notoriously anti-wii, gametrailers don't even get you guys started on that....so what's wrong with 1up again? They just happen to be worse for the sake of this topic? Ever listened to Nintendo voice chat (IGN's podcast)? They aren't exactly up on wii either....and they have to be. Their official line is "wait for next year, now let's talk about DS".



You can find me on facebook as Markus Van Rijn, if you friend me just mention you're from VGchartz and who you are here.

The_vagabond7 said:
Let's see, IGN sucks because of it's wii bias (such as the article "Nintendo has abandoned the hardcore"), gamespot is supposedly notoriously anti-wii, gametrailers don't even get you guys started on that....so what's wrong with 1up again? They just happen to be worse for the sake of this topic? Ever listened to Nintendo voice chat (IGN's podcast)? They aren't exactly up on wii either....and they have to be. Their official line is "wait for next year, now let's talk about DS".

 

So basically what you are saying is the reason we criticize these sites is because we are too fanboyish to accept the Wii's flaws and in your eyes they are just saying the truth?

See, you are confusing constructive criticism with bashing, which is what these sites have been doing.

Yes, the Wii is not perfect. Nintendo's online strategy sucks, they need a REAL storage solution and they do need to focus on their core games. But just as the Wii has flaws the 360 and PS3 have their downfalls and issues. Did we forget that even with MS promising that its newest consoles last longer there are still RROD issues with even the newest consoles? Their attempts at casual gaming have been laughable at best and it lacks exclusives. The PS3 barely has any noteworthy exclusive titles save for MGS 4 and Little Big Planet and both the 360 and PS3 are identical in games and features. So why aren't websites picking the living daylights out of them?

See, the problem is not how much these sites criticize the Wii, its how OFTEN. Yes, we get it, you don't care about the Wii. Do we NEED to be reminded of it every chance we get? It goes from concern to a desperate cry for attention, and this annoys people. Rather than trying hard to bash the Wii why not mention its good qualities just like other websites mention the 360 and PS3's qualities? As flawed as the Wii might be there ARE many noteworthy things to consider, like how WiiWare offers great variety in games despite only being a few months old, how some future titles are promising and how Motion Plus can affect current Wii affairs.

Finally, these sites pull off some questionable things. For example EGM, part of the 1up network, refused to review "Endless Ocean" over childish claims of being "a shallow casual title". Yet, "Endless Ocean" is the third in a series of games that once premiered on the PS2, games that were REVIEWED by EGM. Similar titles on the 360 and PS3 get some attention and are even praised. It just shows a double standard that can get annoying if it happens to many times.

Then there's Matt's infamous Wii Music review. The reason it got criticized was because on the E3 podcast Matt confessed that he couldn't wait to bash it to pieces. I'm sorry, but when you admit the only reason you want to review a game is to bash it you lose any credibility you have as a reviewer. Reviews are meant to be informative pieces of a game's values. Reviews tend to make the mistake of putting effort on just their thoughts without taking into consideration the consumers.

Not to mention that these sites are notoriously hardcore. They spend their time hyping big games, games that meet the typical hardcore demands (big, robust graphics, lots of violence and gore etc.) and don't give enough time to smaller titles that might not be hardcore but are worth your time. Game Informer, for example, has yet to feature a title like "de Blob" and "No More Heroes" on the cover, even if they are the Wii's best and most important third party titles.

So to sum it up, the reason we criticize these sites is not because we are blind Wii/Nintendo fanboys, but because the constant Wii bashing is getting old, despite some truth underneath the angst and wish for some type of balance. We accept and even ignore the 360 and PS3's shortcomings and just enjoy the games and its features, even when they aren't our main console of preference. So if we can accept the 360 and PS3 and such why can't the rest of the gaming media and community do the same with the Wii and move on? Why the constant need to scream into the world that you are discontent with the Wii, especially when others have done it to death?

THAT'S the problem we are having with these sites.



I stopped using 1up a while back after some of their reviews for the wii were atrocious in my opinion.



@papa64

I'm Just saying, if everybody is doing it then singling out one group and saying "WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?" is silly. If you don't like it fine, but it's all of them, not 1up's podcast. The entire industry is annoyed by the wii, not 1up. Every magazine, website, and a very large portion of game making companies make fun of the wii, not just 1up. So don't say that 1upyours is terrible journalism, fanboys and are unprofessional, say the entire industry is a bunch unprofessional fanboys.



You can find me on facebook as Markus Van Rijn, if you friend me just mention you're from VGchartz and who you are here.

Around the Network

Play magazine. The best gaming journalism out there. Support them by getting a subscription please!



Wow, someone who passionately defends these nerds. How amusing.

The old gaming publications are going to be a niche in the future. The future is here, nerds. Ha. Ha. Ha. *points at the "core" gamers*

I'm just a gamer :)



It is high time the people of these websites grew up.

Movie websites and comic websites and magazines grew up a long time ago. It's time video games followed suit. We need to start getting reviewers who will actually take the time to review these games.

I was actually researching a game my niece asked for called "Littlest Pet Shop". I figured, if I found a dissapointing review that convinced me my niece wouldn't like it, I'd skip over it and buy her something I thought was cooler.

But the only review I found for it, just said the game sucked and I shouldn't get it. Didn't go in depth about the game, just wrote several paragraphs filled with childish "humor", like he was too good to even consider what the game might mean for a little kid.

So I ignored it, I bought it, and low and behold she liked it. Big surprise? Not really.

The problem I have with a lot of reviews these days is that they are simply terribly written bashfests or ridiculously positive gushfests. They are simply worthless, and they don't consider the tastes or preferences of other consumers, only their own, making them utterly useless to anyone but themselves.

Gaming journalism sucks.



Well they are entitled to their opinions but I doubt pissing people is a good way to keep long time members. But I think the thing about DQ is funny haha. I can smell the jealousy from here with those words.

But 1UP guys can say whatever they want... whether they are justified as not. I jsut won't go to their site haha. My choice and their choice.



N.Genckel said:
Wow, someone who passionately defends these nerds. How amusing.

The old gaming publications are going to be a niche in the future. The future is here, nerds. Ha. Ha. Ha. *points at the "core" gamers*

I'm just a gamer :)

Yea its why I never give them too much fame.  I mean its jsut a bunch of tech whores with dedicated speech.  Means almost nothing too me.  Not like we are talign to professionals haha.  Not even journalist professionals so I don't hold them up for too much.