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oxford-gamer said:
i've read zucas' posts even before i joined the forums, and i can say that his work is one of the most unbiased i have ever read.

nintendo's offerings may have not appeased the loyal fan base, but it seems that some people are taking that and morphing it into saying that Nintendo only releases out crap that targets the expanded audience.

i mean, i've been a devoted Nintendo fan for my entire life, and even i know good games don't come out every 5 months.

 

Well I try to keep it as unbias as possible but even I can be a little stubborn every now and then.  Mainly when it comes to Zelda haha but that's ok. 

I mean I'm just more concerned with what's right than what things are.  I'd question everyday about the fun factor in LBP but I'll defend its innovation til the death because I think the gaming industry needs more things like that.  Which is why it really doesn't matter what the subject is, I'm going to side what I think is right, not necessarily what I want to be right.  I wanted Wii's online to be great, but it's not.  So I'm not going to side with Nintendo on that.  Just how I am I suppose.



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oxford-gamer said:

i mean, i've been a devoted Nintendo fan for my entire life, and even i know good games don't come out every 5 months.

 

Sure they do, just buy a HD console.

Kidding,  the Wii has more than one good game every 5 months.

 



leo-j said:
@oxford

Well...I wouldnt say good games dont come out every 5 months..

 

I think he was saying from a single developer which is probably the truth.  Most large devs, such as Ninty, only release 2-3 big games ever year with no guarantees that all will be hits.



Solid_Raiden said:
N.Genckel said:
Solid_Raiden said:
Zucas said:
N.Genckel said:
The problem is that people have forgot what an opinion is. To have an opinion, you have to know about the thing you have an opinion about. These days, it's like people think they can have an opinion about something they know absolutly nothing about and have 0 experience with. That's called being ignorant, and that's when you don't actually have an opinion, but just spew uneducated, useless crap.

 

Yes I've always believed in the idea of everyone can say their opinion but there are always better ones than others.  That's what I call justice haha.  The recognition of what's right and it works for opinions as well.

 

 But this idea that the two of you shar is just another opinion. And that's the messed up thing about opinions. lol There is no defined definition of the boundries or limitations of what a person's opinion might be. You might have an opinion of what an opinion defines, but then my opinion might be different. :P

Yes, there is. If yor opinion is uneducated, it's worthless. With no value. Of no use. It's not hard to understand, and it's not an opinion. You are exactly one of those people that I talked about. Someone who don't know what an opinion actually is.

 

 

 First off, I never said that was my opinion. I believe the opinion of someone with no knowledge of a given subject is worthless. However, I unlike you realise that this too is just my opinion and by no means cancels out the opinion of others. Others may disagree and believe that the opinion of all people are of equal worth, and that is their opinion. So get off your high horse and down here with the rest of us.

But congradulations, my OPINION of you is that your hardly of the knowledge for me to take any opinion of yours seriously if you can't even understand that. 

 

 What was your opinion? You said what you said as a definition, that wasn't an opinion. What I'm saying isn't an opinion either, it's a fact. Somewhere, it was forgotten that an opinion has to build on education, and now some people define an opinion as something that can range from extremely educated to completely clueless. Now people like you think it's ok to have an opinion about something you have no clue about. That's not optimal. Actually, it's pretty dangerous in a democracy.

And thanks for the uber prententious attempt at a knock at the end. Tells people alot about you.



Zucas said:
SmokedHostage said:
It remember it being said that(paraphazing) "One of the biggest strengths of Democracy is that everyone has a say. And one of the biggest weaknesses of Democracy is that everyone has a say." I don't know why.. but this thread made me think about that.

 

Oh absolutely.  Democracies have no concern for what's right.  They never have.  They are concerned with equality and freedome which are great but justice has to be present.  Sometimes it jsut isn't because supporting the majority cancels this out a lot of the time.  Ethics is probably the real problem.  Starts with the family and if parents don't teach their children right and wrong then it carries through life. 

I think another quote about democracy is, "A democracy's largest danger is public opinion."  Conformity of the masses is always a bad thing which is usually apparent in democracies especially in America.  But don't get me started on politics haha.  I'll never stop talking.

Even Democracies must give up freedoms to achieve order though. In fact when we vote for our president we are voting for the very freedoms we are willing to give up in order to achieve that order. We do this by investigating the policies of the candidates and what we lose vs. what we gain. For instance, by looking at the political parties as a whole, Democrats would rather give up some freedoms for the pursuit of equality while Republicans would have us give up some freedoms for order and protection.

To be free is to live without laws, therefore we limit our freedoms by inacting laws to protect us.

 




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We have to be adults at times, something I sometimes forget when I'm in a forum with teens and children.

If someone says something like "The Wii is a non-portable PSP", try to ignore their ignorance. I'm sure you know it's not true in any shape or form.



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Will if thats the case, yea, its real hard for one developer to release lots of strong ip in a year's time.

I dont know why people complain there isnt a zelda(which there is), or a Super mario platformer(which there is) on the wii announced yet? Its obvious its coming, I mean its nintendo, dont let fanboys derail you and say "They dont care about the fans" or any of that bull crap, because its not true, nintendo has always cared about its fanbase.

Its just this gen they are making more games to introduce more people into gaming.



 

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Solid_Raiden said:
Zucas said:
SmokedHostage said:
It remember it being said that(paraphazing) "One of the biggest strengths of Democracy is that everyone has a say. And one of the biggest weaknesses of Democracy is that everyone has a say." I don't know why.. but this thread made me think about that.

 

Oh absolutely. Democracies have no concern for what's right. They never have. They are concerned with equality and freedome which are great but justice has to be present. Sometimes it jsut isn't because supporting the majority cancels this out a lot of the time. Ethics is probably the real problem. Starts with the family and if parents don't teach their children right and wrong then it carries through life.

I think another quote about democracy is, "A democracy's largest danger is public opinion." Conformity of the masses is always a bad thing which is usually apparent in democracies especially in America. But don't get me started on politics haha. I'll never stop talking.

Even Democracies must give up freedoms to achieve order though. In fact when we vote for our president we are voting for the very freedoms we are willing to give up in order to achieve that order. We do this by investigating the policies of the candidates and what we lose vs. what we gain. For instance, by looking at the political parties as a whole, Democrats would rather give up some freedoms for the pursuit of equality while Republicans would have us give up some freedoms for order and protection.

To be free is to live without laws, therefore we limit our freedoms by inacting laws to protect us.

 

 

Yes even democracies couldn't avoide the teachings of Hobbes.  Absolute freedom is impossible in a world of chaos.  However, I personally believe chaos can be destroyed by virtue ethics.  It's the law set up by that of Aristotle who's basic principle is that ethical people will make ethical decisions.  From birth ethics and justice should be the prime subjects of learning along with normal education.  Teach them about the "good" as Aristotle would put it and they will be ethical people.  Ethical people can live with absolute freedom devoid of a set of laws because they will do the right thing.  Sure they would have the freedom to kill someone and their would be no repercussions but if they know this is unethical they won't do it. 

Maybe that's just the idealist in me or maybe its a possibility.  Who knows.





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