I realize that, yes...which is why I wrote "(d)espite the love they get on the forums, JRPGs have always been a very small market in the West."

It was subtle, though, so I can understand why you'd miss it while skimming (I do it all the time myself). Looks like we're in agreement here, though.

Holy shit, I completely forgot about SO4. That's definitely one to look out for, it'll be pretty close in America. I was mainly thinking about WKC, which I think is being overestimated - I don't think it can do 1mil.

@noname2200: Btw, don't forget KH! It's the best selling console RPG ever in America, which is pretty impressive.

Great point. I always forget about Kingdom Hearts for some reason.

KH is the #1 console RPG in the US??? i always thought it was FFVII... Well, you learn something every day...

BTW, nicely done saying "console" because i was about to bring Pokemon to the discussion XD XD XD

I think they meant #1 console RPG in the US of the 21st century

Nope. Ever. At least according to this site.

So we are agreed that an extremely niche game on a system with a smaller install base has outsold a more mainstream type of JRPG on "the" JRPG HD console.  This must be a brain-breaker to some 360 folks.

@ noname

What? KH only sold 5 mil!

Yes, but the discussion was about a JRPG's sales in the US. Kingdom Hearts is at 3.5 million here: FF VII is at 3.05.

This only add more evidence to what was obvious since Eternal Sonata release : XB360 is the worst console for JRPG.
Japanese devs probably hoped to recoup their cost from the west, but it failed hard. The audience just is not on HD consoles. The PS3 does a little better, and just shows how bad the XB360 is for JRPG.
That's the only thing that make people say nonsense like JRPG never were popular in the west or other nonsense.
All of this is just poor excuses. An action JRPG outsold by a SRPG on a far lower installed base just has no excuse.
The audience for these games are not on the XB360, again, it was obvious since more than a year ago.
WRPG do far better, the difference is just insane. Clearly, the style of the games play a big role. There's a kind of hate from the XB360 owners for these games' designs.

Even the PS3 population seems to have this hate. Gritty graphics are what sell on these consoles.

That's what will save FFXIII, because I was starting to wonder if even adding the XB360 would save its sales. My common sense tell me that it will work and that the added market of PS3 + XB360 will ensure very good sales for FFXIII, but I have this strange hunch...

Anyway, the better ToV on XB360 being outsold in every territory by the spin-off ToS:KoR should be selling a clear message to Namco Bandai, if they didn't wise up already. Only Europe to go for these two.