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Ender on 11 December 2008

Geez Sony is getting dismantled on hardware and software. There's nothing positive about those numbers.



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Khuutra on 11 December 2008

@leo-j: No. They can't afford it, especially with falling PS2 and PSP sales.

@Killergran: Are you trying to reverse-jinx this, because I think that is what is going to happen. Never doubt!



NJ5 on 11 December 2008
leo-j said:
Maybe sony will cut price after seeing these numbers?

Don't count on it. They aren't suicidal. The games division wants to be profitable, and the PS2 / PSP decreasing in sales doesn't help.

 



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leo-j on 11 December 2008
FishyJoe said:
Sony knows how much it's selling. They can't afford a price cut. Why is that so difficult to understand?

 

 Because when the ps3 was "dying" in 2007, they realized they had to cut price, which is why we saw the $399 price introduction.



 

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Blacksaber on 11 December 2008



Former something....

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EaglesEye379 on 11 December 2008

Epic's Gears of War 2 won the best-selling software crown in the United States last month, selling 1.56 million copies, according to the NPD Group. But Call of Duty: World at War won the multi-SKU battle.

World at War's tally rang up just shy of the 2.01 million that Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare boasted in November of 2007, with Activision's WWII shooter moving 1.41 million on the Xbox 360 and 597,000 on the PlayStation 3. November's other big shooters, Left 4 Dead and Resistance 2, landed at spots eight and nine, respectively.

Wii mainstays Wii Play, Wii Fit and Mario Kart Wii each saw a huge sales boost from October, with the missing-in-action Wii Music getting a showing in the top ten. What's up, Wii Music?

01. Gears of War 2 (Xbox 360) - 1.56 million
02. Call of Duty: World at War (Xbox 360) - 1.41 million
03. Wii Play (Wii) - 796,000
04. Wii Fit (Wii) - 697,000
05. Mario Kart Wii (Wii) - 637,000
06: Call of Duty: World at War (PS3) - 597,000
07. Guitar Hero World Tour (Wii) - 475,000
08. Left 4 Dead (Xbox 360) - 410,000
09. Resistance 2 (PS3) - 385,000
10. Wii Music (Wii) - 297,000

NPD analyst Anita Frazier noted that Gears of War 2 enjoyed a 13% attach rate to the Xbox 360's install base, saying, "These are the types of platform exclusive games that are so important to the continued strength of any given platform."

On the unexpected appearance of Wii Music, Frazier says "I think this is a testament to the power of a comprehensive marketing campaign and the very strong brand equity that the Wii platform enjoys."



Hyruken on 11 December 2008
darthdevidem01 said:
Hyruken said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Hyruken said:
darthdevidem01 said:
kowenicki said:
PS3 is dying in the States. It really is.

Yes thats what people said a year and a half ago as well.....then we all know what happened.

another price drop n the same thing will take place....so please to save your credibility in the future don't make rash judgements.

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@leo-j

I was joking....nothing personal

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@shanbcn

oh but but MS never lies....n always means SOLD TO CONSUMERs but T3H SONY = BAD & always LIE about Sales!

FACT -- GEOW 2 was overtracked.

 

Sorry but the PS3 fanboys are being the deluded ones. Again in your msg you highlight the problem the "wait till xyz" theory. The fact is that the PS3 is about to be further away then it ever has been to either of the teo consoles. Were waiting for the days where what you say comes true and 3 years later people are still waiting. Just accept it the PS3 is not a PS1, it is not a PS2. It is not succesful like those consoles, it is this generations Gamecube or Dreamcast. Sales were DOWN from last year and that is with a PS3 price cut in that 12 months...Sorry bud but you need facts to back up those claims and even without th 360 price cut the PS3 clawed back 1m sales in a year. That would of taken 6 years just to get on level terms....That gap is now over 7m and will probably be 8m by the end of the month. At that ratio before the price cut would take 8 years. Not going to happen. Time to let go and move on.

 

You said DYING

In my post I never mentionsed PS3 would pass 360 or beat anything. I just said....another price drop n then PS3 will look like it isn't dying.

you said PS3 is dying

FACT - PS3 is not dying.

 


 I never said dying....

However it depends on what you would define as dying? To me that would mean going backwards i.e not selling as much as you used to. Which on this evidence would say it is going backwards. To me the fact nearly 3m people bought a console that was not a PS3 shows it is dying really. That is a lot of people who didn't buy the Sony brand. If there were people out there who wanted a PS3 would it really be that low considering it is cheaper then last year?

lol....its in your post

PS3 is just as costly as last year at this point in time.....it has reached price point saturation + competitors prices are down way below it = Lower sales than last year.

 

No Kowenicki said it was Dying not me.

And the PS3 had a price cut in the sense you got more things with it i.e games/dvds etc.. last years price cut was just a full on price cut.

 



Ender on 11 December 2008
FishyJoe said:
Sony knows how much it's selling. They can't afford a price cut. Why is that so difficult to understand?

 

I would love to know the true cost of each system (360, ps3, wii).  It's hard to believe the most expensive console is most likely the least profitable, but I suspect that's the case.



Oyvoyvoyv on 11 December 2008
DirtyP2002 said:

Resistance did even worse than we expected. Please don't spin it! 385k in one month is not good at all. Remeber this one should be the Gears of War2 for the PS3.

Left 4 Dead did better than expected. Gears is overtracked. Call of Duty World at war did really good.

I knew that the Wii is big, but this is getting out of control. With this speed, a new Zelda and some JRPGs, the Wii has a good shot to outsell the PS2. Are there still Sony-fans saying the PS3 will pass the Wii?

Xbox360 did really good outselling the PS3 and the PSP combined.

Well declining YoY sales is not a good sign for a two year old console, so Sony should be worried.

Oh come on.

Resistance did even worse than we expected. Please don't spin it! 385k in one month is not good at all. Remeber this one should be the Gears of War2 for the PS3.

It did 13K lower. It was the closest call we had, and there's no reason to say it did worse.


Left 4 Dead did better than expected. Gears is overtracked. Call of Duty World at war did really good.

They did very good, but Gears was heavily overtracked. If you count R2 as overtracked, CoD was overtracked by miles as well (over 3 times as much).

 

The Ps3 isn't doing well, we get it. There's no reason to spin it further by saying things that simply are half-lies (nope, it didn't lack an f between i and e).

 

 



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FishyJoe on 11 December 2008
leo-j said:
FishyJoe said:
Sony knows how much it's selling. They can't afford a price cut. Why is that so difficult to understand?

 

 Because when the ps3 was "dying" in 2007, they realized they had to cut price, which is why we saw the $399 price introduction.

 

In 2007, the rest of the company wasn't in dire straits. In 2007, the other parts of the company were making enough to hide the PS3 losses. That is no longer the case.