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Darc Requiem said:
El Duderino said:
mrstickball said:
Doubtful. I'm not a big fan of the FPS genre, as it's just about as stale as the general JRPG genre.

I *might* pick it up if its $30 and I can play 4p co-op through campaign.


Yes the FPS has become quite stale but there are still lots of games that go new ways, System Shock and Deus Ex come to mind, Bioshock Mass Effect and the newly announced Rage should also add some depth to the genre, I´m not going to say Halo is in any way a revolution but does every new game have to be one ??? If Halo 3 does what the Halo searies has been doing best up till now I will definitly get it as soon as I have a 360.

And yes I´m actually a PC games when it comes to FPSs but Halo is one of the few I love playing on a console.


Mass Effect isn't an FPS, its a RPG.


Yeah,

  1. Nevermind my Mass Effect statement, though I really don't lump that game with FPS's.
  2. Deus Ex isn't doing new things, it did new things 7 years ago.
  3. System Shock-- same as above but add, what, 10 years?
  4. Rage? We've only seen a short trailer for the game and so far there's nothing really evolutionary about it. If you think it's revolutionary because it's pretty, then you might as well call Doom 3 revolutionary along Resistance: Fall of Man.
  5. Halo 3 hasn't promised to do much new other than 4 player co-op (unless I completely missed something). 4 player co-op isn't really anything revolutionary, it's just kind of the next logical step.
So yeah, FPS games have been pretty stale for a while and while there are things like Bioshock and Metroid Prime (yes, FPA, bleh, whatever it's a first person game) trying to shake things up, the genre is stale.

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misteromar said:

Yeah it holds water, Alot ppl bought the 360 in antipation of halo 3 and have been waiting for it to come. In threads about halo 3, I bet that most ppl there already have got their 360 for it and the minortiy are waiting to buy 360 when comes out.
Same goes for ps3 alot ppl who have bought in antipation of mgs4 etc.
There will be a small sales spike and then back to the same sales for the 360. Maybe lower because it has competion now, sony and nintendo will be dropping big games too, which will take sales away from the 360. just look at the big 3 Nintendo are dropping.

Thanks for setting me straight.  I see the error in my logic now.  By the way, since everyone that is anticipating MGS4 for the PS3 has already bought one does that mean MGS4 won't be a system seller?  I mean, after all, all the PS2 owners that love the original MGS series have more than likely already bought their PS3 in anticipation of the glory that will be MGS4.

Have a nice day. 



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Systems I currently own:  360, PS3, Wii, DS Lite (2)
Systems I've owned: PS2, PS1, Dreamcast, Saturn, 3DO, Genesis, Gamecube, N64, SNES, NES, GBA, GB, C64, Amiga, Atari 2600 and 5200, Sega Game Gear, Vectrex, Intellivision, Pong.  Yes, Pong.

Well we will just have to wait and see who will eat humble pie. Halo 3 will give a small sales spike to 360 then back to average sales is my prediction.

Nintendo's big 3 will sell more consoles than halo 3 will.

have a nice day too



twesterm said:

So yeah, FPS games have been pretty stale for a while and while there are things like Bioshock and Metroid Prime (yes, FPA, bleh, whatever it's a first person game) trying to shake things up, the genre is stale.

Bioshock pushes FPS because it's pushing AI and gameplay in a FPS in a new direction.  Metroid Prime is getting credit solely based on it's new control scheme, which since other games on the Wii already were using motion controls does it really add anything new at all or deserve to be in the same sentence as Bioshock when it comes to adding something new to the genre?



misteromar said:

Well we will just have to wait and see who will eat humble pie. Halo 3 will give a small sales spike to 360 then back to average sales is my prediction.

Nintendo's big 3 will sell more consoles than halo 3 will.

have a nice day too


 

Indeed we will.

We've gone way off topic but... Nintendo has nothing to do with this argument -- why did you bring that up?  Please answer my question concerning MGS4 as to whether or not it will be a system seller.



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misteromar said:

Well we will just have to wait and see who will eat humble pie. Halo 3 will give a small sales spike to 360 then back to average sales is my prediction.

Nintendo's big 3 will sell more consoles than halo 3 will.

have a nice day too


 I think it will sell consoles.  And I am a Wii fan mostly.  Don't just walk into threads and post negative stuff like this.  There is no reason to mention Nin's big three in a thread called "Any 360 owners NOT buying Halo 3?".

 

I am telling you this because your low post count might mean you are new to boards.  When people are talking about things like actually buying or not buying a game that isn't the place to post stuff about humble pie or other game being better, on another console, that come out in different months, from a different genre.

An on VG charts we say Eat Crow. 

 



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Legend11 said:
twesterm said:

So yeah, FPS games have been pretty stale for a while and while there are things like Bioshock and Metroid Prime (yes, FPA, bleh, whatever it's a first person game) trying to shake things up, the genre is stale.

Bioshock pushes FPS because it's pushing AI and gameplay in a FPS in a new direction. Metroid Prime is getting credit solely based on it's new control scheme, which since other games on the Wii already were using motion controls does it really add anything new at all or deserve to be in the same sentence as Bioshock when it comes to adding something new to the genre?


So because Metroid Prime is pushing new controls in a completely different way than all the Wii games it gets discounted because other Wii games use motion controls?

That's like saying Halo doesn't matter because all the console FPS games before that used a controller. 



twesterm said:
Legend11 said:
twesterm said:

So yeah, FPS games have been pretty stale for a while and while there are things like Bioshock and Metroid Prime (yes, FPA, bleh, whatever it's a first person game) trying to shake things up, the genre is stale.

Bioshock pushes FPS because it's pushing AI and gameplay in a FPS in a new direction. Metroid Prime is getting credit solely based on it's new control scheme, which since other games on the Wii already were using motion controls does it really add anything new at all or deserve to be in the same sentence as Bioshock when it comes to adding something new to the genre?


So because Metroid Prime is pushing new controls in a completely different way than all the Wii games it gets discounted because other Wii games use motion controls?

That's like saying Halo doesn't matter because all the console FPS games before that used a controller. 


Halo was the first console game to allow people to system-link and play up to 16 players.  Halo 2 was the first real online FPS for consoles.  Metroid Prime on the other hand doesn't appear to actually add anything new besides using motion controls which have been used in past Wii games (maybe not as well implemented, but still used).  Do PC games get labelled revolutionary if they improve the mouse and keyboard control scheme slightly compared to previous games?



But MP isn't a slight improvement, that's the thing. If it was just Metroid Prime 3: Now with same Gamecube controls then it wouldn't be anything special. Instead, it's Metriod Prime 3: With brand new Wii controls that worked wonderfully and one that nobody has ever done before so yes, the game is special.

As for Halo, it was special for two reasons 1) like you said, the system link ans 2) because it revolutionized the way FPS console games played. If a PC game did something that made a complete new way of playing due to its controls, then yes, it would get recognized. Metroid Prime isn't just slightly improving the controls at all, it's making a brand new control scheme that just works really well. A game that just slightly improved the control scheme would be something like RE4: Wii Edition therefore not special in a revolutionary sense (though special in that it made that game better).



"Please answer my question concerning MGS4 as to whether or not it will be a system seller. "
same prediction as halo 3, These games will boost sales slightly for bit and that will be it. Sequels just dont sell systems like they once did.
I brang up Nintendo's big titles as comparision.