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Ronster316 on 09 December 2008

Sales aside, i have to say that the 360 is fast closing in on been my 2nd fave console of all time............. Dreamcast is still 1st but the megadrives position in 2nd is under threat.

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pbroy on 09 December 2008

NXE still pushing 360s. ~_n

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Squilliam on 09 December 2008
seece said:
Squilliam said:
I just updated myself, see?

I think the gap between the PS3/360 for the year is something like 200k now, so we could see the 360 take the year in the last few weeks.

 

lol or considering the 360 outsold the PS3 by 280k last week in Americas it is very likely we will see it this week ;) You're very cautious these days Squilliam!

Ok, it will do it this week most likely and the gap in the last 4 weeks of the year could easily add another million to the gap to the total (8.25 million lead), so quite possibly we could see the Xbox 360 take a 9 million console lead by the start of Q2 2009, before any possible Sony pricecuts are even possible.

 



Tease.

Ronster316 on 09 December 2008
pbroy said:
NXE still pushing 360s. ~_n

 

Everytime i check your status on xbox live your watching somthing on netflix, do you play games anymore? lol

If they brought somthing like netflix to the UK i'm sure i would be doing the same though.



BornFirst. on 09 December 2008

Those DS sales scare me. Its like 4 years old and still putting out such hight numbers. *shudder*



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heruamon on 09 December 2008
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heruamon said:
Zim said:
@smashed: Im sorry what logic makes you believe the PS3 is doing amazing for it's price? This is others, which has always tended to be Sony's strongest area.

Let's take the $200 V $400 comparison people keep using (even though it's others and so multiple currencies are used). However right of the bat we have to say that not all 360's sold are the arcade. Realistically the average is probably closer to $250v$400.

So 360 sales are 323k and Ps3 sales are 176K. Using the very basic logic that if something is twice the price it sells half as much that would mean at $250 the PS3 would receive a 1.6 boost in sales. 1.6x176 = 282k. Below the 360, in Sony's strongest market, after a line-up of software that people were declaring would see sales skyrocket.

This is also done with very basic calculations as half price doesn't = twice sales. But basically it's very very hard to argue the PS3 is doing well for it's price. Especially if you consider that if both consoles were the same price MS would be making a much bigger profit off hardware.

Simple fact is sony mispriced their hardware and hugely over estimated the value people place on the sony brand name, the exclusive titles and blu-ray. It's sales are okay for it's price but definetly not amazing. Not to mention who cares what sales are like for price? It's a competitive market. When the PS3 drops in price so will the 360. And while not every 360 sold is a lost sale for the PS3 and pretty large percentage of them are. By the time the PS3 reaches $200 the amount of people looking for a $200 console will have dropped.


I have to say though Nintendo are doing insanely well with the wii. It's looking like to will soon take over the PS3 and 360 combined totals. Not only that but demand is still so high that they can probably continue on for ages without a price drop. It doesn't look like there will be a price drop next year at this sales rate. Pretty incredible.

Sony's strategy is evidently not working that great, considering that they are slashing 16000 positions and 10 of production capacity.  Added on to the fact that they are already saying profits will be down at least 50% yoy for the march reporting period.  So let sony fanboy keep believing everything is rosy, and that 360 and wii days are numbered...time will tell.

I think, when we discuss revenue vs. consoles, there are 2 important things to consider.

1) For the present time, consoles are what matter. The more consoles sold means far more than revenue...If your selling a ton of consoles, your going to eventually lead in every feasable catagory (such as the Wii - despite a pretty bad ratio of HW to SW, it's overcome that gap by dominating hardware). Furthermore, since it moves more SW, it certainly helps the hardware maker, because the licensing fees are where they make the big bucks.

2) Revenue ONLY matters if you have a chance to reduce prices. One of the things with the X360 was, even when it was $400 for the Premium, there were enough consoles being sold that most knew that when the price dropped....Sales would pick up. The problem is, now, that so many consoles are being sold in the X360/Wii camp, that they are drying up the purchase base so quickly (in a relative term), that the boost Sony will get from a price reduction will be mitigated...Because when it drops to $300, the X360/Wii may have dried up a significant portion of the users wanting to buy a console at $300.

 

While ps3 isn't out of the game by a longshot, I really believe 360 is going to put 2nd place out of reach for ps3, if the lead balloons to 9 million+ by the eventual price cut for the ps3 in 2009.  Will that mean the death of the ps3, of course not, as the system is selling well, but it will mean that after dominating the last generation, ps will have fallen hard.  It will also mean sony has less leverage to "force" nintendo and m$ into adopting brd for the next gen.  If ps3 comes in last, those consoles will be able to dictate terms to sony to get them to allow it onto their machines. 



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pbroy on 09 December 2008
Ronster316 said:
pbroy said:
NXE still pushing 360s. ~_n

 

Everytime i check your status on xbox live your watching somthing on netflix, do you play games anymore? lol

If they brought somthing like netflix to the UK i'm sure i would be doing the same though.

 

Good thing it doesn't say "Watching Hannah Montana", which I'm not. ¬_¬

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selnor on 09 December 2008

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Hawkeye on 09 December 2008

Anyone think PS3 can come back? I think it has a shot of at leat a PSP renaissance.



dejelek on 09 December 2008

great number especially for wii

MS doing good job in others region. maybe we will see WW > 800K for x360 this week