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@Selnor, even games like Ghost recall and such are too generic for my taste. They are more on the strategic end. But pretty much every character, can do every thing. And the weapons are so cliche'. It's still regular FPS stuff, just at a slower pace xD Those are even worse than halo or call of duty to me :P



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ChronotriggerJM said:
@Selnor because not every game is what I deem "generic".

Here are a few games which are quite different in my opinion.

Tribes. Big emphasis on the physics, jetpacks, skiing, and a 3 tier spawning system, light armor for quicker movements, medium armor for long range survivability, and heavy armor for the big stuff, obviously your much slower than the others ;) Tribes uses all these for strategic elements in they're gameplay. Standard FPS stuff, then all of this stuff that you HAVE to factor into the game.

Team fortress. Say no more, you already understand I'm sure :P A class system which limits what you can and can't do as a player. Depending on your personal goals, you will NEED to adapt a strategy.

Warhawk, this game is based around it's vehicles. The vehicles are like different classes all on they're own, and they all NEED to be utilized in order to win the game/take over bases. I mentioned earlier that there is a massive predatory cycle in this setup as well, and it takes far more intelligence to win as opposed to simple skill. The person with the most kills is rarely the winner, knowing how the battle is progressing is what nets you the win here.

Timeshift (self explanatory)

Fracture (if you've seen the vids you already know :P )

Haze!!!! The two opposing factions have entirely different skills and abilities. How you utilize them is how you'll win.

Resistance Fall of Man series. All in the weapons baby :P The mechanics that worked before, start to fall apart here, you have to keep on the move or you'll get toasted pretty quick :D Weapons can shoot through walls, blades can ricochet and kill you off pretty quick, corpses can explode on command from magnum shells, rockets can change direction. Scary stuff :3 You have to know your weapons to kill, and know how to defend against them to stay alive xD

These are some examples of games that I'm talking about. And because Killzone 2 is implementing they're own version of a class system, I'm not sure it will ever see the success that Halo see's. It will be quite a bit more complicated. Not everyone, can do everything :P

So what you are saying is that you prefer games which make you use a certain type of strategy.

Wheras I like Halo 3 because I get the choice of the strategy.

In Halo Team matches. As a team we can decide to use the vehicles to our advantage, or maybe have some snipers for protection. What about grenadeers or ground assault men. A well coordinated, strategic team in Halo 3 will destroy a frag fest team in secondes. Seen this so many times.

I would rather choose my strategy as I play, rather than be set to a few strategies around healing, or constant vehicles etc. But thats where choice comes in and where you differ. If thats why you call Halo generic becasue it combines all those strategy games you mention and gives you choice, then I'll take generic any day of the week.

Thats why I dont play TF2 anymore. It got boring real quick.

 



@Selnor,

Kind of :P I like games where that part of it is emphasized on. The meat of the Halo experience has little to with all that stuff. That's my problem. The meat of the experience was geared towards the people who can just grab a gun and be golden. The stuff like vehicles and such were an aftermath. Sure a team that uses them will be much better off than one that doesn't :D But it's still just an aftermath. I love that constant "need" to think more intelligently. I enjoy the types of games that don't just result in "oh well let's see who gets to the rocket launcher first". And I love games that are based from the ground up to rely on these.

 

They still have all that standard FPS stuff, but they also have that extra layer that's essential to the gameplay.



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nope



Playing Assassin's Creed and Resident evil 5 <3

I dont want to be fanboy anymore...Why? it takes to much work but i will call on ppl on there B.S!!!:)

nope, no way, no how K2 kills halo.



there will never be a halo killer even though im a sony fanboy halo was epic



VaNdErMeEr913 said:
there will never be a halo killer even though im a sony fanboy halo was epic

 

 Hell yes Halo is an Epic shooter. Gears 2 couldn't even knock it off of it's perch.



Infamous said:

Haze was said to be a Halo killer.

R2 was said to be a Halo killer.

Despite people denying it, I've seen the phrase "Halo killer" and Killzone 2 mentioned together multiple times. When it turns out it's not even going to be remotely close, I bet my ass off the next FPS for PS3 will be praised as a "Halo killer" as well, rofl.

Also, check Youtube, I'm looking at multiple "halo killer" fanboy made videos right now.. check the comments and tags.

HAZE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3o8yRTfphQ

R2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NouYzY_0iw

KZ2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dszUkZFQiw8

Halo is God, UNTOUCHABLE. The only thing that even comes remotely close to it is Gears of War, and even then it will never come close.

The more I look into this, I see that almost NO ONE uses "Halo Killer" unless someone is writing an article and asking if the game could be a Halo Killer.  In the three YouTube video comment section, "Halo Killer" is used ONCE, in reference to Killzone 2, with the person saying, "If Sony doesn't mess it up...".  There is a thing called "Godwin's Law" which stated that as a thread goes on, the probability of Hitler being stated approaches one, and a correlary that states that the moment this happens, then the thread will soon die.  The reason for this thread dying is that the moment someone uses Hitler as an insult, they have gone over the line.  

I may propose here a "HK's Law" that states, the moment a FPS is discussed on consoles, the longer it is discussed, the probability of "Halo Killer" will reach one.  And the moment that Halo Killer is mentioned, the conversation would die, due to people realizing the discussion has gotten to be absurd, and the person is way too much of a fanboy.  I believe this is an unspoken law, and why people dare not state it, unless they are a raving fanboy, eventhough the secretly hope and potentially lust that Halo be supplanted as the top FPS franchise on consoles.