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Neoraf said:

I'm sorry folks, I speak from facts.

I repeat, I think WKC will have average sales, just like Valkyria Chronicles.

Valkyria Chronicles (Japan First Week sales) = 78,038 ... on PS3

Tales of Vesperia (Japan First Week sales)  = 106,421 ... on 360
The Last Remnant (Japan First Week sales) = 105,196 ... on the fuckin 360!! in Japan...
Unfinite Discovery (Japan First Week sales) = 89,958 ... again ...on 360 (albeit bad reviews)

Don't forget, there are more than 3 PS3 for 1 Xbox360 in Japan.
Surprisingly, 360 JRPG sells better on Xbox 360. With far less userbase.

Love.

 

When will you just quit?

/Agree with CGI-Quality, You just keep embarassing yourself more and more everytime you post.

 



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SO4 will most likely sell better. In japan, both VC and the 360 rpgs have sold similar numbers. Since WKC is made by square it prolly will get bigger numbers in Japan, but still, VC was an excellent game, prolly better than either of these two. SO4 will easily get larger numbers in others and america because it has a bigger brand name. It has had two very good games in the seriers ( the original and the second story) and a decent one in 3 (other than the story shit).

And VC is not "niche" in Japan, any more so than WKC.



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Aiemond said:
SO4 will most likely sell better. In japan, both VC and the 360 rpgs have sold similar numbers. Since WKC is made by square it prolly will get bigger numbers in Japan, but still, VC was an excellent game, prolly better than either of these two. SO4 will easily get larger numbers in others and america because it has a bigger brand name. It has had two very good games in the seriers ( the original and the second story) and a decent one in 3 (other than the story shit).

And VC is not "niche" in Japan, any more so than WKC.

 

 This makes all other points you said worth absolutly nothing. Especially your last line.



DeotoxSlayer said:
selnor said:
Selnor points to selnors previous post. There is no contest.

 

 http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_9378_en.html

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I have bashed WKC since it was announced on a graphical note but meh, not terrible. Not great, far from it but for the features the game has I will let the graphics of this game slide.



 

CGI-Quality said:
@ Alemond

WKC is being developed by Level 5 not Square

@ Smashed
Thank you.

@ Max
It's all good :)

 

Ok. So that negates the sqare boost. My bad, for some reason I could have sworn that Square was part of this.



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DeotoxSlayer said:
selnor said:
Selnor points to selnors previous post. There is no contest.

 

 http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_9378_en.html

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Here you go.WKC looks good, but it isnt near FF13 or Star Ocean 4. Star Ocean has more detail, some of that looks real. The shuttle taking off is insane, and the battles are awesome. 

 



selnor said:
DeotoxSlayer said:
selnor said:
Selnor points to selnors previous post. There is no contest.

 

 http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_9378_en.html

(I don't know how to Embed)

 

Here you go.WKC looks good, but it isnt near FF13 or Star Ocean 4. Star Ocean has more detail, some of that looks real. The shuttle taking off is insane, and the battles are awesome. 

 

Thanks for Embedding it.

I think this is one of those things where there's not just one right answer.

Star Ocean IV does look better in terms of pure Graphical quality but I far prefer White Knight chronicles artstyle which makes White Knight Chronicles look better visually to me.

 It like how a game with very low graphical Capabilities can look better than a game with high Graphical Capabilities if its artstyle looks more appealing.

This type of thing is all about personal preferences.



Max King of the Wild said:
Aiemond said:
SO4 will most likely sell better. In japan, both VC and the 360 rpgs have sold similar numbers. Since WKC is made by square it prolly will get bigger numbers in Japan, but still, VC was an excellent game, prolly better than either of these two. SO4 will easily get larger numbers in others and america because it has a bigger brand name. It has had two very good games in the seriers ( the original and the second story) and a decent one in 3 (other than the story shit).

And VC is not "niche" in Japan, any more so than WKC.

 

This makes all other points you said worth absolutly nothing. Especially your last line.

 

So I made a mistake on the company and thus everything is invalidated? The only thing that is invalidated is the fact that it would sell more most likely. How does this make my last line obsolete? VC is a great game from a good series with name recognition. Yes, SRPGs don't tend to sell as much, but good ones do. The fact is, it sold like shit on a system that Japan is supposed to love and then sold shit in America. How is WKC going to do any better? Its going to sell some in Japan, prolly about the same as SO4, maybe less, and SO has a much larger name recognition in America.

 

Is this all you can bring up or do you have anything actually constructive to say? Or are you now saying that SO and SO2 are shit games since you said everything in my post is wrong now.



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I have to say though the graphics for WKC are held back due to the online portion of the game. tri-ACE spend there time on graphics and L5 spent there time ripping off Monster Hunter.



 

They will be close,
especially after SO4 release on PS3. =)



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far