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Slimebeast said:
I fink the Wii version of muliti-plat games will always be inferior.

640x480 resolution is nuffin compared to 1280x720 (HD consoles).

 

 people like you is what makes me feel like selling my HD Console. your an adult, you grew up over multiple generations of games. Please don't tell me you can't enjoy old games anymore cause they don't run at 120x720.

 

I'm sure there are times you play your old consoles or old PC games still.



 

 

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Ari_Gold said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Ari_Gold said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Ari_Gold said:
i agree with mr bubbles, reviewers have come up with a different way to review Wii games, and don't compare them directly to their HD counterparts.

 

Well to be quite honest, you're ideas are usually wrong = I mean you said you beat me at Mario Kart when I didn't even play you and the only way you could have played me is joining a game my friend was playing while I was away.

That and the fact... that well facts say otherwise just like Gnizmo pointed out, people are directly comparing games like Shaun White, Guitar Hero, and Call of Duty on all the platforms vs each other, it's just usually Wii reviewers take the HD counterpart into the review while the HD review rarely takes anything from the Wii review, usually only compairing 360 vs PS3, cause they love to leave out the fact that Dual Analog sucks for FPS and Wii remote and Mouse and KB destroy it

geez not that crap again. You're posting your opinion as a fact, and to be quite honest, its bad for vgchartz. Your opinions are different than mine, that doesn't make them the absolute truth you know. This is a place for civil discussion, not just I THINK Wii MOTE IS BETTER.. BLA BLA BLA...  Dual Analogs don't suck for FPS, for every person that hates Dual Analog, theres another one that hates Wii remote. Yes the Mouse and KB destroys everything including the Wiimote, but thats not what this thread is about huh?

 

 

Whenever you want to play mario kart just say it, i'll gladly admit defeat.

 

 

Facts are facts, fact dual analog is not as fast as Mouse & KB nor Wii remote for FPS, fact dual analog is not as dead on accurate as Mouse & KB or Wii remote without an auto lock feature, fact dual analog takes longer to do a quick look around then Wii remote and Mouse & KB.  Those are undisputable facts and thing is with FPS games control is everything, the faster you can move, turn, aim, and react is the difference between winning and losing.

Facts are facts. The PS3/360/PCs FPS's have much better graphics, much better online, more players, dlc, voice chat, than the Wii's. Those are undisputable facts and thing is with FPS games, graphics are everything. They push the genre foward, a FPS with shitty graphics won't sell. Online play has to be up to standards, which were set up by Halo 3, or even CoD 4.

 

Hope you like some facts :)

 

 

Wow that would be great if I didn't say Mouse & KB in each one of my points, but then again you said graphics are everything... and that alone makes your point's fall rather flat... I mean gameplay says HI!  I didn't know that seeing a pretty shiny thing in front of you was more important then being able to play it well... you've shown me the light Ari how could I ever be so blind... *rolls eyes*

Seriously to support the dual analog controls over much better controls is like saying you like the N64 with 1 analog stick vs dual analog... dual analog wins every time but times change, games change, and progress needs to be made, we've had 3 gens now of dual analog on consoles there's better choices out there now for controls, much better choices.



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theprof00 said:

This is what you don't understand. PC has the hacking community, PC has system requirements.
Consoles, have almost no cheaters, have a more difficult aiming ability (and therefore a steeper learning curve, allowing for good gamers to reach high scores fairly quickly),
have no system requirements.

BTW maxwell, where in the OP did it mention that quote?

 

Yeah... what? Most games going all the way back to Quake 3 Arena have some sort of anti cheating mechanism that boots cheaters offline. Cant hack a game without the source code to modify it, and the honest truth is, no gamer is getting their hands on a company's source code unless it is purchased or freely offered by the dev.



Slimebeast said:
I fink the Wii version of muliti-plat games will always be inferior.

640x480 resolution is nuffin compared to 1280x720 (HD consoles).

and 1280 x720 is "nuffin" compared to  2560x1600 which is the resolution I gamed at on my PC (at least for those games that supported it) and yet I gave it up for the Wii because I liked the control system so much better.

So I guess not everyone rates games on the same attributes. Eye candy is nice but FUN is what I play for.

 



MaxwellGT2000 said:
Ari_Gold said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Ari_Gold said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Ari_Gold said:
i agree with mr bubbles, reviewers have come up with a different way to review Wii games, and don't compare them directly to their HD counterparts.

 

Well to be quite honest, you're ideas are usually wrong = I mean you said you beat me at Mario Kart when I didn't even play you and the only way you could have played me is joining a game my friend was playing while I was away.

That and the fact... that well facts say otherwise just like Gnizmo pointed out, people are directly comparing games like Shaun White, Guitar Hero, and Call of Duty on all the platforms vs each other, it's just usually Wii reviewers take the HD counterpart into the review while the HD review rarely takes anything from the Wii review, usually only compairing 360 vs PS3, cause they love to leave out the fact that Dual Analog sucks for FPS and Wii remote and Mouse and KB destroy it

geez not that crap again. You're posting your opinion as a fact, and to be quite honest, its bad for vgchartz. Your opinions are different than mine, that doesn't make them the absolute truth you know. This is a place for civil discussion, not just I THINK Wii MOTE IS BETTER.. BLA BLA BLA...  Dual Analogs don't suck for FPS, for every person that hates Dual Analog, theres another one that hates Wii remote. Yes the Mouse and KB destroys everything including the Wiimote, but thats not what this thread is about huh?

 

 

Whenever you want to play mario kart just say it, i'll gladly admit defeat.

 

 

Facts are facts, fact dual analog is not as fast as Mouse & KB nor Wii remote for FPS, fact dual analog is not as dead on accurate as Mouse & KB or Wii remote without an auto lock feature, fact dual analog takes longer to do a quick look around then Wii remote and Mouse & KB.  Those are undisputable facts and thing is with FPS games control is everything, the faster you can move, turn, aim, and react is the difference between winning and losing.

Facts are facts. The PS3/360/PCs FPS's have much better graphics, much better online, more players, dlc, voice chat, than the Wii's. Those are undisputable facts and thing is with FPS games, graphics are everything. They push the genre foward, a FPS with shitty graphics won't sell. Online play has to be up to standards, which were set up by Halo 3, or even CoD 4.

 

Hope you like some facts :)

 

 

Wow that would be great if I didn't say Mouse & KB in each one of my points, but then again you said graphics are everything... and that alone makes your point's fall rather flat... I mean gameplay says HI!  I didn't know that seeing a pretty shiny thing in front of you was more important then being able to play it well... you've shown me the light Ari how could I ever be so blind... *rolls eyes*

Seriously to support the dual analog controls over much better controls is like saying you like the N64 with 1 analog stick vs dual analog... dual analog wins every time but times change, games change, and progress needs to be made, we've had 3 gens now of dual analog on consoles there's better choices out there now for controls, much better choices.

 

You're just too stubborn. Graphics really matter for FPS, its what drives the games hype, and sales. You are hyping the Conduit because of its graphics are the best on the wii, i guess it caught your interest am i right?



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bardicverse said:
theprof00 said:

This is what you don't understand. PC has the hacking community, PC has system requirements.
Consoles, have almost no cheaters, have a more difficult aiming ability (and therefore a steeper learning curve, allowing for good gamers to reach high scores fairly quickly),
have no system requirements.

BTW maxwell, where in the OP did it mention that quote?

 

Yeah... what? Most games going all the way back to Quake 3 Arena have some sort of anti cheating mechanism that boots cheaters offline. Cant hack a game without the source code to modify it, and the honest truth is, no gamer is getting their hands on a company's source code unless it is purchased or freely offered by the dev.

 

Exactly what I was thinking, I mean I played about 3 years of Unreal 2004 on PC without meeting a cheater, in fact the last time I played a cheater was on Starcraft back in 2003... so yeah... lots of cheaters everywhere on PC ZOMG!!! 

Also with every post you seem more and more like my kind of guy bardicverse!



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Great Thread Grampy, i do agree that HD consoles are still getting those "better" teams behind their multiplats. But the Wii is slowly starting to get good versions of the games as well, because of its selling potential and different experience that could offer (Call Your Own Shots anyone?). And this trend hopeffuly will continue, with Wii version offering alternative, and HD twins getting better graphics, personally ill always will pick the Alternative.

It's not the Graphics only that makes version Inferior/Superior, there is much more to making a good game (sadly some people dont see it).

there are more examples you could add: Star Wars Force: Unleashed, Smackdown vs. Raw 2009, Pro Evolution Soccer 2008.



Ari_Gold said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Ari_Gold said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Ari_Gold said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Ari_Gold said:
i agree with mr bubbles, reviewers have come up with a different way to review Wii games, and don't compare them directly to their HD counterparts.

 

Well to be quite honest, you're ideas are usually wrong = I mean you said you beat me at Mario Kart when I didn't even play you and the only way you could have played me is joining a game my friend was playing while I was away.

That and the fact... that well facts say otherwise just like Gnizmo pointed out, people are directly comparing games like Shaun White, Guitar Hero, and Call of Duty on all the platforms vs each other, it's just usually Wii reviewers take the HD counterpart into the review while the HD review rarely takes anything from the Wii review, usually only compairing 360 vs PS3, cause they love to leave out the fact that Dual Analog sucks for FPS and Wii remote and Mouse and KB destroy it

geez not that crap again. You're posting your opinion as a fact, and to be quite honest, its bad for vgchartz. Your opinions are different than mine, that doesn't make them the absolute truth you know. This is a place for civil discussion, not just I THINK Wii MOTE IS BETTER.. BLA BLA BLA...  Dual Analogs don't suck for FPS, for every person that hates Dual Analog, theres another one that hates Wii remote. Yes the Mouse and KB destroys everything including the Wiimote, but thats not what this thread is about huh?

 

 

Whenever you want to play mario kart just say it, i'll gladly admit defeat.

 

 

Facts are facts, fact dual analog is not as fast as Mouse & KB nor Wii remote for FPS, fact dual analog is not as dead on accurate as Mouse & KB or Wii remote without an auto lock feature, fact dual analog takes longer to do a quick look around then Wii remote and Mouse & KB.  Those are undisputable facts and thing is with FPS games control is everything, the faster you can move, turn, aim, and react is the difference between winning and losing.

Facts are facts. The PS3/360/PCs FPS's have much better graphics, much better online, more players, dlc, voice chat, than the Wii's. Those are undisputable facts and thing is with FPS games, graphics are everything. They push the genre foward, a FPS with shitty graphics won't sell. Online play has to be up to standards, which were set up by Halo 3, or even CoD 4.

 

Hope you like some facts :)

 

 

Wow that would be great if I didn't say Mouse & KB in each one of my points, but then again you said graphics are everything... and that alone makes your point's fall rather flat... I mean gameplay says HI!  I didn't know that seeing a pretty shiny thing in front of you was more important then being able to play it well... you've shown me the light Ari how could I ever be so blind... *rolls eyes*

Seriously to support the dual analog controls over much better controls is like saying you like the N64 with 1 analog stick vs dual analog... dual analog wins every time but times change, games change, and progress needs to be made, we've had 3 gens now of dual analog on consoles there's better choices out there now for controls, much better choices.

 

You're just too stubborn. Graphics really matter for FPS, its what drives the games hype, and sales. You are hyping the Conduit because of its graphics are the best on the wii, i guess it caught your interest am i right?

 

Actually you couldn't be more wrong, I support the Conduit based on it's controls being fully customizable more along the lines of PC customization (hmm I'm seeing a trend that all goes back to PC), a good Wii FPS not set in World War II, an interesting story about government conspiracy, 16+ multiplayer online, LAN support (none of that splitscreen crap), Wii Speak support, and hopefully no friend codes.  That and the fact it's obvious these guys are working their asses off to make a quality game on the Wii and believe in it so much that they would make it an Wii exclusive.  Plus they're wanting to push things so far as to use Wii motion plus when that will release just before the Conduit releases and will be one of the few games to support it.  

So why would I support it cause it looks nice?  I mean I got a huge list of reasons to support it that are ten times better reasons to support it then pointless graphics.



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Grampy said:
Slimebeast said:
I fink the Wii version of muliti-plat games will always be inferior.

640x480 resolution is nuffin compared to 1280x720 (HD consoles).

and 1280 x720 is "nuffin" compared to  2560x1600 which is the resolution I gamed at on my PC (at least for those games that supported it) and yet I gave it up for the Wii because I liked the control system so much better.

So I guess not everyone rates games on the same attributes. Eye candy is nice but FUN is what I play for.

 

Lies. I saw u write that your PC was kinda weak, awhile ago, so I fink its not possible to run 2560x1600 on your PC to be honest. Or did u upgrade?
Cobretti2 said:
Slimebeast said:
I fink the Wii version of muliti-plat games will always be inferior.

640x480 resolution is nuffin compared to 1280x720 (HD consoles).

 

 people like you is what makes me feel like selling my HD Console. your an adult, you grew up over multiple generations of games. Please don't tell me you can't enjoy old games anymore cause they don't run at 120x720.

 

I'm sure there are times you play your old consoles or old PC games still.

 

Actually I play my X360 on a standard definition TV set lol and I fink the grafix are still awesome.

P

 



For the diehard fanboys who have convinced themselves that the Wii could only possibly outscore the HD consoles because reviewers have decided to mercifully use a different standard and not a direct multi-platform comparison, I’m going to have to offer just another reality check ( to go along with: it’s a fad, GTA4 will destroy the Wii, the Wii is only leading because of price)

Here are direct quotes from Shaun White Reviews that indicate that this is a direct head to head match-up

1Up______________________________________________

“Shaun White's Wii excursion is better than its PS3/XB360 counterparts in almost every respect.”

“Although they share Shaun White's visage and a snowboarding theme, not much else ties Shaun White Snowboarding: Road Trip to its PS3/Xbox 360 counterpart -- and that's a good thing. While the more powerful console version looks arguably better, obtuse controls and a misleading map make exploring it feel like an uphill trek. For now, the underpowered Wii provides the best Shaun White experience.”

“The game does so many things right, it's almost hard to believe that the same company developed both this and its PS3/360 counterpart. I only hope that more companies will put the same time and attention into making their Wii ports such excellent (and in this case superior) standalone experiences.”

Game Zone_______________________________________

Overall: 8.3

Wii owners have some great extreme sports games to choose from, and this is one more that shouldn’t be missed. It contains some of the same quirks of the other versions (crown collecting and other objective-based goals) but is still a blast to play. This version also contains a rider/cameraman feature that lets you select two different characters (one to film, which adds a special ability, and one to board) to enhance your overall performance. That is yet another dynamic that makes Shaun White Snowboarding: Road Trip for Wii the best version available.

Video Game Talk ___________________________________________________

If you want to really get into a snowboarding game, actually standing on a board is probably the best choice, and the integration with the Balance Board raises Shaun White Snowboarding: Road Trip above the pack in that respect, but it's in no way gimmicky, as it can be just as enjoyable with your Wii-mote, thanks to a very intuitive control system.

Eurogamer_________________________________________________

Wii versions of multiformat games often conjure masochistic disenchantment, but this is easily the best Shaun White console experience of the bunch.

And - make sure you're sitting down - Road Trip is also the best-looking version. While the Wii can't hope to compete in terms of particle effects and textures, this is a game crafted for the platform, and it shows: the slopes are bold and cartoony and, along with the characters, give it a solidity far more enjoyable than the often glitchy, pop-in ridden efforts on the other consoles. The frame-rate's decent too.