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NeoRatt said:
I think there is two problems with blu-ray... Price of device and price of content.

If DVD Devices and Blu-Ray discs cost the same why would you not buy blu-ray?

The fact is, people are not willing to pay a premium for the device and people like myself that have well over 800 DVDs at home are not willing to pay $10 more for a blu-ray movie. I like the technology, like the features, but I am unwilling to pay more to watch/use them? Definately not. Until the price of the devices are closer to DVD (sub $100) and the movies cost the same as DVD ($20-ish) blu-ray will struggle.

 

I am with you... AND I already bought my Blu-ray player (and HD DVD for that matter) and have well over 100 Blu-ray movies.  I actually stopped buying the discs because I am tired of paying $30-$35 for new releases.  I absolutely, positively love the format, but I hate the price.

Blu-ray will fail by the end of 2009 if it doesn't find a way to get the prices close to or the same as standard DVDs.

Streaming media is making headway, and we aren't that far off from quality portable streaming as well.  Blu-ray only thought Toshiba & HD DVD were the enemy... they were actually only the front line.  There's a massive army of streaming video & standard DVD waiting behind it.

 



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Whoever wrote this article needs to shut up.. I'd rather watch VHS/beta movies rather than read that eyesore article.



iron_megalith said:
Whoever wrote this article needs to shut up.. I'd rather watch VHS/beta movies rather than read that eyesore article.

Yes, how dare he express his opinion!



Kasz216 said:
Staude said:
Kasz216 said:
Staude said:
blu ray is doing better than dvd was :p

except... it isn't.

It's doing worse.

Despite having a larger market to sell to.

 

It's doing better at it's stage in life. Concidering the way smaller market (hdtv's vs normal tvs. Everyone had normal tvs. Not everyone has hdtvs)

 

 

No it's not.  Disc adoption is way below still... the movie market is larger.

It's not surprising that disk adoption is trailing.  The conversion from VHS to DVD required a complete repurchase of the film on the DVD media.  The conversion from DVD to Blu-ray does not.  In fact, the DVD library will look better on the Blu-ray player. 

Also, anyone that is paying $35 per Blu-ray movie should really shop around.  I suggest Amazon.  The Dark Knight is $15 for DVD and $24 for Blu-ray.   

 



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

nordlead said:
Garnett said:
nordlead said:
what the crap, you repeated yourself like 3 times.

 

huh? What are you talking about thats not my article,i just found it and decided to post it.

 

I know it wasn't your article, but you did post it and it was still repeated.

Anyways, there are points I agree with in this article, but overall, I think that downloads won't come anytime soon (at least not to that quaility) and also, people like to own phisical things.

Now, with MP3, having it all digital is convenient cause you can easily carry it around and play it in different locations. The same has not been achieved with movies.

I disagree with that, since I find AAC (Advanced Audio Codec) is WAY better than MP3 due to me messing around with it. The audio quality on that format rivals that of the audio quality of the music on an audio CD, it's that good. It is very crystal clear, and I am using iTunes WAY more to burn music and to listen to it, as the audio quality on Windows Media Player is starting to suck, and it sometimes freezes and stutters (and I know the CD doesn't skip because it wasn't damaged when I burned the disc onto my laptop). Plus iTunes (besides Nero) is the only software that can burn an audio CD without pauses/gaps/silence areas between songs.

 



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Best case scenario of streaming and Blu-ray..

Streaming: near HD quality to Blu-ray, stereo audio, cheaper.

Blu-ray: full 1080p HD, uncompressed surround sound, features and extras, personal ownership, collectability, more expensive.

Conclusion: You get what you pay for while both options are good.  I just depends on what you are viewing and your perception of it.  And some have predicted that Blu-ray will become mainstream.  I personally do NOT think so, but I do see it as a profitable quality offering to HD users.  You don't have to be mainstream to be sucessful.  HD had yet to be mainstream, but it's still around while growing and improving.  Blu-ray is not for everyone, but to deny its fine offerings of video, audio, and extras are reserved for the haters.  Like some PS3 fanboys who are jealous of Wii and 360 sales and some of its software offerings, the PS3/SONY haters KNOW that they are denying themselves what they can only get from Blu-ray so they make excuses.  Oh, and like most everyone else here, this thread is fail because of the outdated material and opinion of the article.  Peace.



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Naraku_Diabolos said:
nordlead said:
Garnett said:
nordlead said:
what the crap, you repeated yourself like 3 times.

 

huh? What are you talking about thats not my article,i just found it and decided to post it.

 

I know it wasn't your article, but you did post it and it was still repeated.

Anyways, there are points I agree with in this article, but overall, I think that downloads won't come anytime soon (at least not to that quaility) and also, people like to own phisical things.

Now, with MP3, having it all digital is convenient cause you can easily carry it around and play it in different locations. The same has not been achieved with movies.

I disagree with that, since I find AAC (Advanced Audio Codec) is WAY better than MP3 due to me messing around with it. The audio quality on that format rivals that of the audio quality of the music on an audio CD, it's that good. It is very crystal clear, and I am using iTunes WAY more to burn music and to listen to it, as the audio quality on Windows Media Player is starting to suck, and it sometimes freezes and stutters (and I know the CD doesn't skip because it wasn't damaged when I burned the disc onto my laptop). Plus iTunes (besides Nero) is the only software that can burn an audio CD without pauses/gaps/silence areas between songs.

 

 

AAC FTW.



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dbot said:
Kasz216 said:
Staude said:
Kasz216 said:
Staude said:
blu ray is doing better than dvd was :p

except... it isn't.

It's doing worse.

Despite having a larger market to sell to.

 

It's doing better at it's stage in life. Concidering the way smaller market (hdtv's vs normal tvs. Everyone had normal tvs. Not everyone has hdtvs)

 

 

No it's not.  Disc adoption is way below still... the movie market is larger.

It's not surprising that disk adoption is trailing.  The conversion from VHS to DVD required a complete repurchase of the film on the DVD media.  The conversion from DVD to Blu-ray does not.  In fact, the DVD library will look better on the Blu-ray player. 

Also, anyone that is paying $35 per Blu-ray movie should really shop around.  I suggest Amazon.  The Dark Knight is $15 for DVD and $24 for Blu-ray.   

 

It being not surprisng that it's doing worse doesn't negate the fact that it is infact doing much worse.

 



Time will tell...it's all about money, and if the companies supporting brd don't see the $$$ benefits, they will weaken on support. Disney is all about brd.



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Blu Ray retail price is some kind of bad joke.

Sainsbury's North London ENGLAND this evening.

Hancock DVD 9.97 GBP
Hancock BluRay 19.97 GBP

This is ludicrous.....the price difference is so large only a fool would buy the Blu Ray version.

Still you know what they say about a fool and his money.