Well it is their own fault they have a community of more than a half million members and how many mods?  7-8? Lucky Brandon is still their.

I guess this one is the real thread?

The SMODS, are supposed to add moderators, but they never do, thats terrible imo.

You linked us some retailer collections... heck even the prices are different today than what you posted.  You just demonstrated what I was talking about.  Check out Sony's prices and bundles at Sony's site, and compare them to the retailers -- Sony doesn't offer most of those bundle deals.  Its the retailers doing it.  Its called a "loss leader", as I said.

I'm not sure if it's loss leading or desperation to clear inventory.

According to this chart, Sega Saturn> Ps3 in sales

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS3&reg2=Japan&cons3=SAT&reg3=Japan&weeks=156

I also included Wii. Please note this is japan, not EU. For some reason that data wasn't available.

Regardless of how poorly PS3 does, it will not be another Sega Saturn. It may end up that 360 saves the PS3, but worst case scenario is that PS3 base is big enough to port 360 games to, thus making 3600+ PS3 viable and keeping Wii support at bay. However, the PS3 will get no 3rd party exclusives.

This means very little for PS3- perhaps valkeryia chronciles will go to 360, and perhaps ToV, Star Ocean 4, and Mass Effect will remain 360 exclusive, but PS3 first party development is so fantastic I don't think it will matter. Unless the software starts to whither and 1st party development isn't worth it... but in that case, the console will die as a more expensive port machine wouldn't be able to stand up to a cheaper console with good exclusives.

Remainds me those "Limited MGS4 editions" that were sold at wal Mart

I updated my signature... Should crack a million this week.

Im getting tired of ps3 is doomed threads/posts.. wow this is becoming near 2007 standards