i like the all play stuff they did. what i think they are and no one else is accounting for is not everyone buys madden or another franchise year after year after year no matter if there is new things added. i mean for example if someone bought madden 07 they might think about getting 09 but more then likely will get madden 10. then the ones that have already bought madden 08 wont buy until either madden ten or eleven and like myself i wont buy another madden for a few years cause there really isnt much of a jump between years all that there is is roster chamges.

Fixed.

Thing is, it isn't really a struggle to sell sports games on Wii. Just the "authentic" sports games, as Moore calls them.

The traditional sports games are being disrupted more quickly than practically any other segment. That's why not just EA, but Konami and 2K are giving special treatment to Wii versions of their sports games. Although Moore was very smart to protect the traditional EA Sports brand with the "All-Play" label, on the Wii that labeling has backfired. It has chased away any traditional sports gamers, while doing nothing to help attract people looking for the "pick up and play" family experience.

Meanwhile games like Deca Sports, Sega Tennis, We Ski, Big Beach Sports, and of course Mario and Sonic at the Olympics, are selling amazingly. If it was a case of "Wii Sports being good enough for a lot of people," why are there a bunch of non-traditional sports games outselling the EA Sports big guns?

The fact is, Wii Sports, Deca Sports, Big Beach Sports and the rest are all vastly superior games to Madden or FIFA... At the job of providing a fun experience that anyone can be competitive in without a large investment of time. The changes made for All-Play aren't enough to make Madden or FIFA competitive along those lines.

How is Golf more "hardcore" than American Football? That makes no sense at all. I play Golf a lot, but mainly most Golf players are soccer dads.

Agreed.  The All-Play thing is rediculous.  It's as if they made "Madden: Carnival Games Edition".

Alot of people in this thread are in agreement, the cover and title changes were not effective.

...Based on this you'd think they used a focus group or something to help in this area. Me personally I bought Madden, but had my reservations for the same reason everyone stated the boxart turned me off.

...as far as madden goes i just hope they grown it, I know it's going to take time as the game comes out every year, but any growth is good.

Wii, only profitable for Nintendo, confirmed...

Some quick thoughts.

VGChartz data shows that Madden 09 and Tiger Woods 09 are not up to 08 levels on the Xbox 360 -- so these games take a while to sell.

VGChartz data shows Wii Tiger Woods 09 to be the top-selling version -- so some people buy games regardless of the label.

Not everyone wants to buy essentially the game each year.

Madden 08's touchy controls may have made people shy away from Wii 09.

Tiger Woods 09 getting the highest reviews may have made multi-console players buy that version instead of/in addition to an HD version.

FIFA competes with PES. And PES 2008 has a great Wii engine (now just if it had more teams). You can pick up and play very quickly. It is the most enjoyable video game soccer experience I have ever had.

Mike from Morgantown

Or how about a golf game that just focuses on being a good sim? I think if they released Tiger Woods for the Wii that was simply a high quality golf sim that allowed you to play on famous courses they could sell more than every version they have released for the wii so far combined.

The thing is that many sports games, and golf especially have all sorts of things going on to distract the player from the fact that all he is really doing is button mashing. These artifacts aren't needed when you have motion controls and in fact distract from the experience with motion controls. What is needed are controls that actually feel like you are playing the actual sport.

I agree with this 100%

You want to sell more, Call it the same thing.

Stop labeling things with "Party" "All-Play" "Family" for these particular games. The EA games can still be all those things... just put it on the back of the box =)

It may work for other titles but the EA core Sports games should LOOK LIKE the best damn sports game you can buy, and not a watered down edition... even if they aren't watered down at all.