Kojima recieves first ever video game Lifetime Achievement Award by MTV...

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chasmatic12 on 25 November 2008

Loud_Hot_White_Box said:

oh noes, Miyamoto didn't win the award first! Let's call into question their stated criteria, supply a new set of criteria, insult the network/program/award, and generally fanboy out!

Damn straight.

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Loud_Hot_White_Box said:

oh noes, Miyamoto didn't win the award first! Let's call into question their stated criteria, supply a new set of criteria, insult the network/program/award, and generally fanboy out!

Are you defending MTV as a source of gaming journalism and criticism

I mean really

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Maynard_Tool on 25 November 2008

Well..... good, i guess.

03/10/09 HUGE day in my life:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=63437&page=1

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Rath on 25 November 2008

I'm joining the Miyamoto fanboy crowd.

Where did Kojima come on the list of most influential people?

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hsrob on 25 November 2008

Khuutra said:

chasmatic12 said:
I have all of the respect in the world for Kojima, but honestly, Miyamoto has had a greater impact in the gaming industry. Just my opinion, though.

And Jade is extremely cute, but she can't present if her life depended on it.

No, it isn't just your opinion. Miyamoto is far and away the most important and influential designer of video games in the history of the medium. Will Wright is closest to him, and even Wright isn't in the same neighborhood. The man is the father of the modern video game.

MTV handed out this award based on hype and the inability to recognize games that actually convey narrative in a way that takes advantage of the medium.

This post get's the first "Rob seal of approval".

Miyamoto is the most influential man in videogames and it isn't even open for debate. It's called a Lifetime Achievement Award, if they somehow chose criteria which excluded Miyamoto then the award isn't worth the paper it's written on.

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Maynard_Tool on 25 November 2008

^ agreed

03/10/09 HUGE day in my life:

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DTG said:

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DTG said:

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Miyamoto may design revolutionary/great gameplay but Kojima has managed to lift games to a medium equal to film as a device for deep, meaningful storytelling. He transcended the very definitions of what a video game is by creating the "interactive movie". Miyamoto has never really transcended the medium until the Wii and wiifit in particular.

He didn't invent the interactive movie. Those were on Sega CD even. For example: Night Trap.

At what point in an MGS game do you interact with the movie? Isn't it a back-and-forth between gameplay/movie/gameplay/movie? Because that's actually a step backwards. I think you're looking for the phrase "more cutscenes than ever."

Games with a lot of cutscenes = interactive movie. The cutscenes are the primary aspect of MGS and the gameplay segmets provide interactivity between storytelling scenes, creating a movie with interactive gameplay pauses.

If that's your definition of interactive movie, then I think you're talking about Ninja Gaiden on the NES, or possibly before. That's the first one I remember. (link to cutscenes on the NES: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRLqwsXebHQ )

Neither of them are interactive movies though, without branching narratives. If you can't actually interact with the story (i.e. change it), then you're just playing a little, watching a little, playing a little, watching a little. If your gameplay doesn't change which movies you see and which ending you get, it's not interactive at all. It's just a regular narrative game, with movies in the middle (like Super Mario World).

How many endings does MGS4 have?

Why should you need brancing storylines or multiple endings? The interactivity is the gameplay the cutscenes are movie. There''s both interactive and passive entertainment.

As I said earlier, if that's your definition of interactive movie, then Kojima didn't invent it. Have you ever seen a Final Fantasy game?

But also, it's the wrong definition.

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The Anarchyz on 25 November 2008

Mi pick is Shigeru Miyamoto, with Keiji Inafune and Tetsuya Nomura as close 2nd and 3rd...

Kojima is great, the Metal Gear Solid series is amazing, but this is a lifetime achievement award, not a "best XXXX of the year" award...