you obviously bought a 360 and expect they "typical" 3rd party games on it. they've tried the "typical" on wii and you haven't bought them. So what constitutes a good 3rd party game? I for one am just as cnfused as they are.

Off topic, I don't care about halo myself. I didn't even buy any halo game on the original xbox

I've played both halo 2 and 3 so I don't know what you are talking about. I never thought any halo game was good enough for me to spend money on though.

To quote Khuutra, you are a liar. Anyone's who's played Halo knows you can't tell if Master Chief is bald, and that you can't see if he's sweating or not.

You see, even if the vehicles were removed and co-op was taken out, even cod4 didn't have those options but it sold better than games like bad company which allow you to fly even helicopters and Resistance 2 which has co-op options beyond anything I've ever seen. So I won't consider the omission of those options an excuse for the cod:waw selling a measly 0.07mil (according to vgc).

You are right, the game is inferior but I used to think wii owners were in need of a good shooter so that would make it more likely to sell more? On ps3 some people picked R2 over cod:waw and many 360 owners chose to play gears 2 nstead. Other HD console owners just stuck with cod4 but what other game competes with cod:Waw on wii? My conclusion: the audience for this sort of game either don't have wiis or have both a wii and one or both of the HD consoles for which they just went HD.

@Pristine: But by looking at 3rd parties multiplatform titles, they, in most cases, tend to miss Wii for the controls part.
Still, you're talking about perceived selling point by the devs. Did you notice that you just pointed out the obvious, that the devs complain about their bad business strategy. They choose the second highest selling platform as the lead platform and fuck up the highest selling.

You know, you don't have to play halo to know that right? I considered it a hypothetical situation. Also, I only bothered to play the multiplayer portion of both halo 2 and 3 with friends so I won't know if master chief is bald or not (if he /she took off his/her helmet sometime during the campaign)

Calling me a liar is a prsonal attack. Thats going too far.

well third parties are right on this one. its not their fault nintendo make a system arguable less powerful than the ps2. and that the wii's fan base consits of mostly causal gamers that don't want the violent/offensive games that these 3rd parties make

Ugggh..

Reggie's point is that developers should be trying to make good games -- not that they have to look like HD consoles.

Look at Activision's recent Wii releases. In the past two months, they have dropped among other things, a minigame collection, a port of an old PS2 game, and a clone of Wii Sports. All carry a $40 price tag.

Reading the full article, Victor Godinez seems to diminsh the Wii because it has sold E-rated games. That is always been Nintendo's bread-and-butter.

Had Nintendo made a machine like the PS3 and Xbox 360, it would not be selling. But since it made something different, those who don't understand can't figure out why it sells and take pot shots. Plus, you know that Kotaku would pick up on anything aniti-Wii.

Mike from Morgantown

So you admit to making claims that you don't actually know are true or not, and that you haven't done even the most cursory of research before making your claim.

I take it back. You're not just a liar. You're also a bulls***er.

I haven't played any wii games so i don't know if the 3rd party devs mess up the motion controls or not but what I do know is this: our generation of 3rd party devs don'tknow what to do with the wii. It's painfully obvious. They want to make games for it but don't know how to approach. Hence, the cheap shovelware. They just ignored the GC and N64 but they aren't really ignoring the wii. EA  tries to specialize with titles like bloom blox sees pretty good success then turns around to see Activision's COD4 doing 6.6 mil on x360 which is a fomula they're more familiar with.

I think the honest truth is that the wii itself is an innovation and requires innovative titles as such to sell well (apart from nintendocore titles which nintendo fans always buy like SSBB, Mario, Zelda etc). Most devs are just used to franchising like the rest of the world. Wii development thus becomes much more costly/risky because that goes hand in hand with innovation whereas devs can continue reiterating (franchising) old successes on ps360 and keep succeeding. You can call devs lazy but just remember that 99% of the world repeats success formulas instead of creating new ones.