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vizunary on 31 July 2007

uhhh, whatever, the game is too far from release to judge.



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endimion on 31 July 2007
leo-j said:
endimion said:
@AllAll

Lol or maybe because they already pre sold 6 million copies ????

and their is nothing to compare between KZ2 COD4 and Halo3 it's like comparing oblivion with final fantasy and neverwinter nights... all RPG games totaly different games at the same time.... and all good at the end anyway....

and read the link I put.... if Rein says what he is saying I'm dead sure they don't have to fear anything with halo 3

so Halo 3 is going to be a great game
COD4 is certainly an amazing game and is going to sell a lot on both consoles
and KZ2 is probably going to be good.... but with what they showed at E3 it's nowhere close to halo 3 spec yet..... it might be better at the end but it's definitely not now...

Your right, KZ2 is no where near halo 3 spec, its far beyond it. In gameplay, graphics, and maybe even story.


 No it's not and it's a fact not a fan base fantasy... I have nothing against KZ2 and it probably is going to be better than HALO 3 at the end but what they showed is nowhere near halo 3....  and I said spec which doesn't mean it looks better...... it means it has way more addvanced technical elements..... the texturing of halo is way over KZ, the different effect implemented are way better for now on halo, the number of polygon on screen at the same time is sill lower than halo... the number of independent AI on screen is lower, map size, loading time between zone and freedome of movement are most likely under halo..... and gameplay even if i think it's something personal and people are different... i hardly believe they are going to be that much better if they happen to.... but it would be great anyway for the industry.. I'm all for an improvement of gameplay it will serve everybody's interest.... and onece again the 2 games are not really comparable.... but about specs what I said is a reallity.... once again nothing to do with the visual render at the end.... but KZ should be compared to GOW not to halo.... and of what rein said halo 3 is going to plaster GOW.... and Rein is known to give is true opinion and is also known for GOW, UT3 and unreal engin 3 so I'm pretty sure of what i'm saying.....

now next year is another story...  



sieanr on 31 July 2007
Spectrumglr said:
leo-j said:
 

Your right, KZ2 is no where near halo 3 spec, its far beyond it. In gameplay, graphics, and maybe even story.


gameplay? errr... KZ2 might be a great game but I don't think at present we have any elements to judge anything but graphics (and to be honest the AI we've seen is faaaaaaar from perfect).

 

ah, BTW you can say that KZ2 has 4d while H3 hasn't ;)


Thats not fair. 

There was a KZ2 gameplay vid where a guy hit a switch to open up some weather vanes, then shot at said weather vanes. He then repeated this process for 4min, and thats what I call next gen gameplay.


Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

WiteoutKing on 31 July 2007

When will people learn to just enjoy the game for THE GAME instead of comparing them to each other so harshly. It's like me saying "I hate Katamari Damacy because its story and graphics weren't as good as Final Fantasy XII." It's ridiculous.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
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01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
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01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

libellule on 31 July 2007

@sienar,

I agree this moment was crap but in the fnal version, there will be Hellgast harrasing u during the whole process.



Time to Work !

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leo-j on 31 July 2007
endimion said:
leo-j said:
endimion said:
@AllAll

Lol or maybe because they already pre sold 6 million copies ????

and their is nothing to compare between KZ2 COD4 and Halo3 it's like comparing oblivion with final fantasy and neverwinter nights... all RPG games totaly different games at the same time.... and all good at the end anyway....

and read the link I put.... if Rein says what he is saying I'm dead sure they don't have to fear anything with halo 3

so Halo 3 is going to be a great game
COD4 is certainly an amazing game and is going to sell a lot on both consoles
and KZ2 is probably going to be good.... but with what they showed at E3 it's nowhere close to halo 3 spec yet..... it might be better at the end but it's definitely not now...

Your right, KZ2 is no where near halo 3 spec, its far beyond it. In gameplay, graphics, and maybe even story.


 No it's not and it's a fact not a fan base fantasy... I have nothing against KZ2 and it probably is going to be better than HALO 3 at the end but what they showed is nowhere near halo 3....  and I said spec which doesn't mean it looks better...... it means it has way more addvanced technical elements..... the texturing of halo is way over KZ, the different effect implemented are way better for now on halo, the number of polygon on screen at the same time is sill lower than halo... the number of independent AI on screen is lower, map size, loading time between zone and freedome of movement are most likely under halo..... and gameplay even if i think it's something personal and people are different... i hardly believe they are going to be that much better if they happen to.... but it would be great anyway for the industry.. I'm all for an improvement of gameplay it will serve everybody's interest.... and onece again the 2 games are not really comparable.... but about specs what I said is a reallity.... once again nothing to do with the visual render at the end.... but KZ should be compared to GOW not to halo.... and of what rein said halo 3 is going to plaster GOW.... and Rein is known to give is true opinion and is also known for GOW, UT3 and unreal engin 3 so I'm pretty sure of what i'm saying.....

now next year is another story...  


You do know that the entire level of killzone1= One helghask soldier in killzone 2

This was a pre alpha lets wait until more killzone stuff is out before we compare it to halo 3 or gears of war.



 

mM
no_way on 31 July 2007

heres a gameplay video for those that doubt --> http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/killzone-2-video-40131.html

and the reason the game looks gritty is because of the pre-processing effects (lighting, environment, weather etc.) the char. models may have exactly or more geometric complexity than an entire level in kz one.  if the level effects were to be turned off, the game would look completely different, as stated in interviews and from the developers themselves. 



your mother on 31 July 2007

You all do realize you are comparing two games that you've never played before. Everything at this point is nothing but conjecture as far as gameplay is (or I am) concerned. 



sieanr on 31 July 2007
libellule said:
@sienar,

I agree this moment was crap but in the fnal version, there will be Hellgast harrasing u during the whole process.

Probably, but at this point KZ is nowhere near completion, and no one here has played/seen final Halo 3.

Because of this, its just stupid to say "Your right, KZ2 is no where near halo 3 spec, its far beyond it. In gameplay, graphics, and maybe even story." 

I think we can agree on this, no?



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

leo-j on 31 July 2007
sieanr said:
libellule said:
@sienar,

I agree this moment was crap but in the fnal version, there will be Hellgast harrasing u during the whole process.

Probably, but at this point KZ is nowhere near completion, and no one here has played/seen final Halo 3.

Because of this, its just stupid to say "Your right, KZ2 is no where near halo 3 spec, its far beyond it. In gameplay, graphics, and maybe even story." 

I think we can agree on this, no?


yes..



 

mM