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HappySqurriel said:

It doesn't matter whether the patent actually describes how the Cell processor is designed, all that matters is whether they can convince a 64 year old judge who can't turn on his computer that the Cell processor is similar enough to their patent to justify a trial; if they're successful with that they only have to convince the same judge that there should be an injunction on the production of cell processors and sale of PS3 systems until the end of the trial. If they accomplish that Sony will be forced to settle regardless of the cost associated with it.

Having seen this time and time again, I would say there is a 50% probability that this will go to trial and a 50% probability that an injunction will be imposed.

Patent trolls are so successful because the legal system is incapable of understanding the technology ...


 THATS IT! Stop being the king of fucking FUD I am so sick of it!



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Just another reason why the patent system should be completely scrapped - at least for this tech BS.



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ssj12 said:

actually this should go to court lmfao, the way the patent is.. its not even how the cell runs. lol Sony would win easily. SPEs are not processors.

 

plus the emotion engine runs more like the patent describes. lol should all 130m PS2s be destroys as well as the PSPs?

the xenos in the 360 runs more like the patent then the CELL lol.


NO NO NO!  You NEVER want these to go to court.  Some really stupid lawsuits will go through simply because the judge has no clue what is going on.  Hope to god this is settled out of court, because if it does make it the PS3 may actually die (not that there is much chance of it making it).  Think about the woman who got millions of dollars from McDonalds because she spilled hot coffee on herself.



theshoe23 said:
HappySqurriel said:

It doesn't matter whether the patent actually describes how the Cell processor is designed, all that matters is whether they can convince a 64 year old judge who can't turn on his computer that the Cell processor is similar enough to their patent to justify a trial; if they're successful with that they only have to convince the same judge that there should be an injunction on the production of cell processors and sale of PS3 systems until the end of the trial. If they accomplish that Sony will be forced to settle regardless of the cost associated with it.

Having seen this time and time again, I would say there is a 50% probability that this will go to trial and a 50% probability that an injunction will be imposed.

Patent trolls are so successful because the legal system is incapable of understanding the technology ...


 THATS IT! Stop being the king of fucking FUD I am so sick of it!


 

"An obscure patent case that could have been settled for a few million bucks has morphed into a billion-dollar dagger hanging over RIM, an enigma for investors and a distraction for legions of hooked BlackBerry users. A U.S. judge has threatened to shut down RIM's BlackBerry network next month for violating a handful of a dead man's patents -- patents that U.S. authorities now concede may not be worth the paper they're printed on."

"How it all happened is a twisted tale of bold inventions, hubris, pride, backroom lobbying and one colossal legal blunder by a sometimes naive Canadian startup eager to make it big in the vast U.S. market."

"..."

"RIM's legal hole grew deeper still. Judge Spencer issued a surprise order barring the sale of BlackBerrys in the United States. He agreed to stay the injunction if RIM would put an amount equal to the damage award in escrow. The total is now more than $240-million."

Seriously, look into patent trolls ... They rarely have an actual case, there goal is to put a companies product at risk (typically through an injunction) to force them to settle.



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In addition to what's already been said, I would just like to point out that patents do NOT need to be defended in order to be kept. Patents are good for the duration (barring prior art and some other exceptions).

Lets say you get a patent. The next day someone invents something that infringes it, and it gets huge. Then, the year before you're about to lose your patent you file suit. Your patent is still completely valid and you will have as good a case as at any other time (once again, assuming your patent is valid, which in a lot of tech cases is not the case IMO, but the legal system disagrees with me).

Trademarks are what are lost if you don't defend them. Patents and Copyrights are a legal, unassailable monopoly for as long as they are valid, whether or not you defend them.

As a trade off, trademarks are (theoretically) the only one of the three that last into perpetuity - as long as you use/defend your trademark, it's yours. Once your patent expires, its in the public domain and can be used for free by anyone without permission, licensing, etc. That's why there have been so many extensions to copyright -- companies want to extend their legal monopoly over the property (that, and Disney).



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naznatips said:
ssj12 said:

actually this should go to court lmfao, the way the patent is.. its not even how the cell runs. lol Sony would win easily. SPEs are not processors.

 

plus the emotion engine runs more like the patent describes. lol should all 130m PS2s be destroys as well as the PSPs?

the xenos in the 360 runs more like the patent then the CELL lol.


NO NO NO! You NEVER want these to go to court. Some really stupid lawsuits will go through simply because the judge has no clue what is going on. Hope to god this is settled out of court, because if it does make it the PS3 may actually die (not that there is much chance of it making it). Think about the woman who got millions of dollars from McDonalds because she spilled hot coffee on herself.

More importantly... the SPEs are, in fact, processors. In fact, that is precisely and only what they are, so that kinda ruins the point.

I don't think they have a valid case at all. Just sayin... they're processors :p 

 



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ceres said:
Cell confirmed "last gen" come PS4 release.

 Hahahahaha good one



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IBM, Toshiba, and Sony designed and built the CELL, but was only Sony mentioned?