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makingmusic476 on 15 November 2008
Darc Requiem said:
jrod824 said:
Let's wait before the reviews hit.

/this

Go play some Resistance 2 or Valkyria Chronicles. There are top notch PS3 games actually on the store shelves. I'm getting tired of people hyping video footage. I think I play more PS3 than half the PS3 fanboys on this site. Speaking of which let me get back to Valkyria Chronicles...

 

Some of us are hyping betas.  ;)

In all honesty, the beta puts every online console shooter I've played to shame, despite having only three maps.



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makingmusic476 on 15 November 2008
darthdevidem01 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Again, I'm not sure you guys wanna overhype this one. Didn't you learn anything from every other PS3 exclusive that has been released this gen? The latest batch have all underpreformed in either sales or reviews or both, to be frank.

It doesn't matter how great the beta online mode is, if the campaign sucks, critics are gonna flame the hell out of it. Look at Resistance 2.

You gain nothing from hyping this. You actually hurt the game by overhyping it. It now, can not do any better than our expectations, and will probably do worse.

Learn lessons, people. Learn from the mistakes of the past.

Resistance 2 had the same and even more glowing impressions from so-called unbiased gamers. Resistance 2 was developed by an even better developer, was a christmas game, and had even more hype.

It turned out to sell modestly, and "only" be pretty good. The Sony haters have yet to stop laughing.

Why, oh why, do you hype your games up so much? Do Wii or 360 owners do this about all their games? Where are the "best game ever" Halo Wars, or Animal Crossing threads?

Why are you doing this to yourself?

Do you figure that if you just hype every game, eventually you will be right? Then what? Who will be owned then? Nobody. Because the game didn't succeed, it will have simply met expectations.

Just say, "Hope it's good" and move on. Trust me, you guys get over-excited at the drop of a hat. You can't tell how a game will be received, no matter how much you play it. Especially if it's a FPS online mode. There are games out there with really, really great, KZ2 quality online modes, already. Every shooter in the past few months has had a killer online mode. Standards have been set. Just saying the online is fun, and the best shooter ever(whatever) doesn't even guarantee the game an 8/10 against today's other shooters. It's all about the campaign and the content.

Even if the game scores well, it's sales might flop. That's even worse. Sales are what make a game important. There is no worse feeling than to have a good game and it not sell a lick.

Just hold off on your excitement and hype for 2 more months, and go play Resistance 2.

If you have nothing good to say then why do you post? WHo are yout o say what to overyhype & what not to overhype??

What is your problem?? I really don't understand what your problem is with PS3 fans hyping games.

Critics FLAMED resistance 2.....so 89 or 88 was it on Gameranking is called "flaming now"

Please spare me the time to tell you how much Wii owners hype as well as 360 owners

Look at The Conduit (we just hada thread on this one today claiming it was AAA n will sell 3million), Alan Wake, Gears 2, Fable 2 (Best RPG ever so calleD), Halo 3 witht eh "finish the fight crap" & many many more

No-one is DOING anything to themselves except for you n your constant blabbering about Ps3 fans being worse than satan.

Oh and about disappointments......which disappointments....what LBP, Resistance 2 (on 2 weeks worth of sales)....oh and MGS4 (now that game bombed didn't it).....remember Uncharted? How it was said it bombed n stuff....we see how that turned out in the end everyone ate crow...

SO please stop making a fool out of yourself in EVERY thread where PS3 fans are hyping games...you say you are unbiased YET you are always the one only saying bad things about PS3 fans....when have you ever said anything against fans of another console....I can;t recall you saying anything like that......all your complaints are AWLAYS directed at PS3 fans...as if they are acting like SATAN

And for gods sake atleast agree to being a fanboy....like most people do instead of hiding behind an arrogant cloth of....."oh I am always right"...."oh I am unbiased"......"oh my posts always make sense".

 

 

 

Calm down guys...



loy310 on 15 November 2008
FilaBrasileiro said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Again, I'm not sure you guys wanna overhype this one. Didn't you learn anything from every other PS3 exclusive that has been released this gen? The latest batch have all underpreformed in either sales or reviews or both, to be frank.

It doesn't matter how great the beta online mode is, if the campaign sucks, critics are gonna flame the hell out of it. Look at Resistance 2.

You gain nothing from hyping this. You actually hurt the game by overhyping it. It now, can not do any better than our expectations, and will probably do worse.

Learn lessons, people. Learn from the mistakes of the past.

Resistance 2 had the same and even more glowing impressions from so-called unbiased gamers. Resistance 2 was developed by an even better developer, was a christmas game, and had even more hype.

It turned out to sell modestly, and "only" be pretty good. The Sony haters have yet to stop laughing.

Why, oh why, do you hype your games up so much? Do Wii or 360 owners do this about all their games? Where are the "best game ever" Halo Wars, or Animal Crossing threads?

Why are you doing this to yourself?

Do you figure that if you just hype every game, eventually you will be right? Then what? Who will be owned then? Nobody. Because the game didn't succeed, it will have simply met expectations.

Just say, "Hope it's good" and move on. Trust me, you guys get over-excited at the drop of a hat. You can't tell how a game will be received, no matter how much you play it. Especially if it's a FPS online mode. There are games out there with really, really great, KZ2 quality online modes, already. Every shooter in the past few months has had a killer online mode. Standards have been set. Just saying the online is fun, and the best shooter ever(whatever) doesn't even guarantee the game an 8/10 against today's other shooters. It's all about the campaign and the content.

Even if the game scores well, it's sales might flop. That's even worse. Sales are what make a game important. There is no worse feeling than to have a good game and it not sell a lick.

Just hold off on your excitement and hype for 2 more months, and go play Resistance 2.

 

About the SP campaign, there are a couple of guys on GAF that were very skeptic about Killzone 2 and they have played the SP campaign and couldn't say much but they were really impressed by it. The one thing that I can see critics and reviewers picking on is the lack of online (and I think offline) co op modes. Also if there are no split screen options, the game score will suffer as well. I played both R2 and Killzone 2 and Killzone 2 is vastly superior, even if it is made by an inferior developer. The only thing R2 beta had on Killzone 2 beta is an awesome co op campaign.

 

With that said, I'm predicting sales to be plateau around 3 million tops, mainly because of Sony's (lack) of marketing.

 

BTW, Wii and 360 owners hype the hell out of their games, I've heard a lot of Halo Wars will be great, being developed by one of the best RTS developers in the business, etc and Animal Crossing will show what the Wii can do online, it'll truly be a marvelous experience, also 360 = Gears 2 best looking game EVA, Forza 2 better than GT5 (even though GT5 is not even out), etc.. and Wii (RE4 with Wii controls is the best thing EVA, WHAT? GTAIV scored higher than SMG? Blasphemy, etc.) and as you mentioned, PS3 owners hype their games, maybe you just tend to notice PS3 owners hyping up their games more.

True, haters are some of the biggest hypocrites around and that goes for all fanboys.  Our opinions are not not facts, and I've seen bad game sell millions and good game sell like over priced crap, so all that watch the numbers talk is  garbage, a true gamer can tell a good game when they see it, so get off the haterade.

 



iron_megalith on 15 November 2008
FilaBrasileiro said:
Maynard_Tool said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Yet another title that will be hype to the max.... sony fans just don't learn :

This title has exceeded all of my expectations, from gameplay to settings to graphics to level design to everything else, this beta is just something else. I am buying this game Day 1. For me this is already the best FPS I have ever played, it is that good of a game. With that said, my expectations for sales for the game are fairly low, I don't expect it to get to 4 mil but it should sell over 2 mil and chug along to the 3 mil mark. However if this game was published by MS (a company that knows how to market and sell products, unlike Sony) and was 360 exclusive, this game would easily sell over 7 million copies.

 

 

How can that be if you haven't even play it??? See what i mean =

 

No I don't see what you mean because I have been playing it for almost 2 weeks now, I'm in the Beta. If you had read my whole post instead of just the first line you would've seen that I said "...this is the best FPS I have ever played..."

You sir just owned someone! +1 to you!

 



twingo on 15 November 2008

love how jealous you fanboys are, must suck your console could never do that game.

K2 is what HD gaming is about.






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blazinhead89 on 15 November 2008
darthdevidem01 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Again, I'm not sure you guys wanna overhype this one. Didn't you learn anything from every other PS3 exclusive that has been released this gen? The latest batch have all underpreformed in either sales or reviews or both, to be frank.

It doesn't matter how great the beta online mode is, if the campaign sucks, critics are gonna flame the hell out of it. Look at Resistance 2.

You gain nothing from hyping this. You actually hurt the game by overhyping it. It now, can not do any better than our expectations, and will probably do worse.

Learn lessons, people. Learn from the mistakes of the past.

Resistance 2 had the same and even more glowing impressions from so-called unbiased gamers. Resistance 2 was developed by an even better developer, was a christmas game, and had even more hype.

It turned out to sell modestly, and "only" be pretty good. The Sony haters have yet to stop laughing.

Why, oh why, do you hype your games up so much? Do Wii or 360 owners do this about all their games? Where are the "best game ever" Halo Wars, or Animal Crossing threads?

Why are you doing this to yourself?

Do you figure that if you just hype every game, eventually you will be right? Then what? Who will be owned then? Nobody. Because the game didn't succeed, it will have simply met expectations.

Just say, "Hope it's good" and move on. Trust me, you guys get over-excited at the drop of a hat. You can't tell how a game will be received, no matter how much you play it. Especially if it's a FPS online mode. There are games out there with really, really great, KZ2 quality online modes, already. Every shooter in the past few months has had a killer online mode. Standards have been set. Just saying the online is fun, and the best shooter ever(whatever) doesn't even guarantee the game an 8/10 against today's other shooters. It's all about the campaign and the content.

Even if the game scores well, it's sales might flop. That's even worse. Sales are what make a game important. There is no worse feeling than to have a good game and it not sell a lick.

Just hold off on your excitement and hype for 2 more months, and go play Resistance 2.

If you have nothing good to say then why do you post? WHo are yout o say what to overyhype & what not to overhype??

What is your problem?? I really don't understand what your problem is with PS3 fans hyping games.

Critics FLAMED resistance 2.....so 89 or 88 was it on Gameranking is called "flaming now"

Please spare me the time to tell you how much Wii owners hype as well as 360 owners

Look at The Conduit (we just hada thread on this one today claiming it was AAA n will sell 3million), Alan Wake, Gears 2, Fable 2 (Best RPG ever so calleD), Halo 3 witht eh "finish the fight crap" & many many more

No-one is DOING anything to themselves except for you n your constant blabbering about Ps3 fans being worse than satan.

Oh and about disappointments......which disappointments....what LBP, Resistance 2 (on 2 weeks worth of sales)....oh and MGS4 (now that game bombed didn't it).....remember Uncharted? How it was said it bombed n stuff....we see how that turned out in the end everyone ate crow...

SO please stop making a fool out of yourself in EVERY thread where PS3 fans are hyping games...you say you are unbiased YET you are always the one only saying bad things about PS3 fans....when have you ever said anything against fans of another console....I can;t recall you saying anything like that......all your complaints are AWLAYS directed at PS3 fans...as if they are acting like SATAN

And for gods sake atleast agree to being a fanboy....like most people do instead of hiding behind an arrogant cloth of....."oh I am always right"...."oh I am unbiased"......"oh my posts always make sense".

 

 


Pretty Much my thoughts, I Also would like to know what Zen has against PS3 Fans being excited :/

Serious_frusting on 15 November 2008

Like i said many many times before they delayed this game for resistance 2 because if this came out at the same time resistance 2 would not sell. Killzone 2 does not need a holiday season to sell and this is the reason why, because it is epic in every word of the sense.



Nobody's perfect. I aint nobody!!!

Killzone 2. its not a fps. it a FIRST PERSON WAR SIMULATOR!!!! ..The true PLAYSTATION 3 launch date and market dominations is SEP 1st

darthdevidem01 on 15 November 2008
makingmusic476 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Again, I'm not sure you guys wanna overhype this one. Didn't you learn anything from every other PS3 exclusive that has been released this gen? The latest batch have all underpreformed in either sales or reviews or both, to be frank.

It doesn't matter how great the beta online mode is, if the campaign sucks, critics are gonna flame the hell out of it. Look at Resistance 2.

You gain nothing from hyping this. You actually hurt the game by overhyping it. It now, can not do any better than our expectations, and will probably do worse.

Learn lessons, people. Learn from the mistakes of the past.

Resistance 2 had the same and even more glowing impressions from so-called unbiased gamers. Resistance 2 was developed by an even better developer, was a christmas game, and had even more hype.

It turned out to sell modestly, and "only" be pretty good. The Sony haters have yet to stop laughing.

Why, oh why, do you hype your games up so much? Do Wii or 360 owners do this about all their games? Where are the "best game ever" Halo Wars, or Animal Crossing threads?

Why are you doing this to yourself?

Do you figure that if you just hype every game, eventually you will be right? Then what? Who will be owned then? Nobody. Because the game didn't succeed, it will have simply met expectations.

Just say, "Hope it's good" and move on. Trust me, you guys get over-excited at the drop of a hat. You can't tell how a game will be received, no matter how much you play it. Especially if it's a FPS online mode. There are games out there with really, really great, KZ2 quality online modes, already. Every shooter in the past few months has had a killer online mode. Standards have been set. Just saying the online is fun, and the best shooter ever(whatever) doesn't even guarantee the game an 8/10 against today's other shooters. It's all about the campaign and the content.

Even if the game scores well, it's sales might flop. That's even worse. Sales are what make a game important. There is no worse feeling than to have a good game and it not sell a lick.

Just hold off on your excitement and hype for 2 more months, and go play Resistance 2.

If you have nothing good to say then why do you post? WHo are yout o say what to overyhype & what not to overhype??

What is your problem?? I really don't understand what your problem is with PS3 fans hyping games.

Critics FLAMED resistance 2.....so 89 or 88 was it on Gameranking is called "flaming now"

Please spare me the time to tell you how much Wii owners hype as well as 360 owners

Look at The Conduit (we just hada thread on this one today claiming it was AAA n will sell 3million), Alan Wake, Gears 2, Fable 2 (Best RPG ever so calleD), Halo 3 witht eh "finish the fight crap" & many many more

No-one is DOING anything to themselves except for you n your constant blabbering about Ps3 fans being worse than satan.

Oh and about disappointments......which disappointments....what LBP, Resistance 2 (on 2 weeks worth of sales)....oh and MGS4 (now that game bombed didn't it).....remember Uncharted? How it was said it bombed n stuff....we see how that turned out in the end everyone ate crow...

SO please stop making a fool out of yourself in EVERY thread where PS3 fans are hyping games...you say you are unbiased YET you are always the one only saying bad things about PS3 fans....when have you ever said anything against fans of another console....I can;t recall you saying anything like that......all your complaints are AWLAYS directed at PS3 fans...as if they are acting like SATAN

And for gods sake atleast agree to being a fanboy....like most people do instead of hiding behind an arrogant cloth of....."oh I am always right"...."oh I am unbiased"......"oh my posts always make sense".

 

 

 

Calm down guys...

No way.....he bashes PS3 fans in every single thread where there is a hint of positive news for PS3.....you know that very well as well.

In most of his post there are always phrases saying...."PS3 fans don't do this"...."Ps3 fans don't do that" is there too as if advising us in the hope that we will embarass ourselves less....WTH!...

or PS3 fans "tend to"....n so on usually accompanied with stealthy jabs saying only Ps3 fans do such things....

Its truly quite boring to see the same type of post with a wall of writing just full of bashing in every thread....n it gets worse when he claims "its the truth & we know it" n things like that.

 



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

blazinhead89 on 15 November 2008

Im gonna say it now Killzone 2 will be Huge (Gameplay Wise). Sales wise is unpredictable. Even if the Game is awesome and sales arent it is not a flop(As long as it breaks even for Sony) IMO, LBP is not a flop. I hate how people think a great game has to have great sales or it flops. Im the one laughing getting to play the great Game ;)



twingo on 15 November 2008
Serious_frusting said:
Like i said many many times before they delayed this game for resistance 2 because if this came out at the same time resistance 2 would not sell. Killzone 2 does not need a holiday season to sell and this is the reason why, because it is epic in every word of the sense.

 

You probably are right on the money dude.