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darconi said:
Woops, thanks for pointing that out to me.  Playing RE4 on the wii right now, it must not be my style of games since I think its good but not spectacular to me.

ah...na...ah...na....that wasnt funny there isnt any woops, thanks for pointing that out...you should look at my post before passing judgement




 
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They had games I loved, that's all that matters to me. I have owned almost every game system made since the Atari 2600 (not counting things like the 3DO), and the only one where I really thought I didn't have enough good games to justify my purchase is the original Xbox. Not that that's driven me away from Microsoft. I'm saving for a 360 right now.



naznatips said:
They had games I loved, that's all that matters to me. I have owned almost every game system made since the Atari 2600 (not counting things like the 3DO), and the only one where I really thought I didn't have enough good games to justify my purchase is the original Xbox. Not that that's driven me away from Microsoft. I'm saving for a 360 right now.

thanks naznatips your just like me...I like the Halo...and you like Phoenix Wright....While your saving for a 360...im saving for a Wii....diamureto...huh whats the problem??




 

For god's sake, enough of the "If the PS3 was the same price as the Wii" arguments. If the PS3 was the same price as the Wii, Sony would be hemorrhaging money. If they wanted to sell it that cheap, they would have to take out a good deal of the expensive details, like the Blu-Ray format itself.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

WiteoutKing said:
For god's sake, enough of the "If the PS3 was the same price as the Wii" arguments. If the PS3 was the same price as the Wii, Sony would be hemorrhaging money. If they wanted to sell it that cheap, they would have to take out a good deal of the expensive details, like the Blu-Ray format itself.

Seriously, LOL. Sony coulda made a $299 PS3 with the same crap with NO blu-ray, and they'd still only be losing $200 per console, except they would have sold 15 million consoles by now. Oh well.



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nope. I have always like Nintendo ip's better than any other. I would have been happier with better 3rd party support though.



N64 wasnt a failure to me - loved the games. Played KI, Golden Eye and Mario Kart for ages with my friends. But still had to get a PS1 for FF and MGS. That didnt happen during SNES times. So that part I didnt like.

NGC I was honestly not interested in anymore. Just picked one up last year cause it was cheap and I wanted to play Mario Kart. Didnt get into the game much. So overall, not that big of a success. Also, no new Nintendo IPs that caught my interest.



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Gamecube was a great console, but, in terms of 3rd party support it paid the overdue price for nintendo's poor treatment of 3rd party developers during the nes/snes era (and to an extent the n64 did too).  Which led to many gamer's abandoning a console that was less expensive and arguably more powerful than the winning competition: the ps2.  And coming in 3rd, in the eyes of gamers, in the 6th gen console wars.


However, commercially, the story's a bit different.

While the media likes to prop gamecube up as a failure to contrast it to Wii's success, commercially it was a success due to strong 1st party sales and Nintendo's common sense business model aka "let's make a profit on the actual console we sell (not just the games), and lets do that as soon as it hits the market, not several years down the road."

You could say xbox won by about 3 miliion units. But commercially, gamecube ranked far higher. Gamecube's profits may have been FAR below PS2 numbers, but, unlike xbox, the system didn't incur millions in losses.

For nintendo, gamecube was a success. A modest success, but successful nontheless.


I still think one of the best games of all time was on the 'Cube:

Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem

But that's just my opinion.



My End of 2008 Hardware Predictions (console only):

Wii : 50 million

360: 28 million

PS3: 24 million

These predictions were made on January 3rd and won't be revised

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leo-j said:
Segata Sanshiro said:
leo-j said:
The reason why nintendo was far behind sony is becuase they didnt offer the huge varaity of games that the ps2 did or the ps1. They are doing well now becuase of the price and I can say that easily since little kids have no choice but to buy the wii and they like the innovative controller, but unfortunatley those kids that wanted a 360 or ps3 got a wii for christmas due to the price of the system. Though the wii is an awsome system. Its winning becuase of the price of the console, if it were to be up against an $299.99 ps3 we wouldnt be seeing the wii at near 10million.

1. They did. Third-Parties didn't.

2. I have seen my fair share of kids nag for whatever they want, regardless of price.

3. Highly doubt it. See above.

4. You should tell that to Sony. They made it expensive.


Your going to expect a 10 year old to make his parents waste 500 dollars on a video game console? Sony made it cheap for the consumer, they were supposed to release it at $799.99, they have been losing money for us the consumer to be able to enjoy there console even though they are losing money just to make people happy.

ehehehehe

heh... do you seriously believe that? "they are losing money just to make people happy." I'm sure Kaz gets warm fuzzies every time he looks at Sony's losses because he knows that he's making people happy.

wow, Sony did a great job on you, didn't they?

 

 



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