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scorptile on 31 July 2007

actually one of the big reasons why nintendo cancelled the snes cd drive was cause nintendo not only didnt want to give rights to sony but also the load times were horendous to the point for one game it took close to 1-2 minutes to load. and actually it took 3 years for the playstation to really take off cause in its first year it was doing poorly but not as poorly as the ps3 is now. but what took off fo rit was FF7 and the price got to 299. but in its first year people didnt buy it cause of its price 799 us.



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Darc Requiem on 31 July 2007
Thrillhouse said:
There is actually a lot more to this story.

Long before Nintendo and Phillips and Sony ever went through this, Sony and Phillips went to war over a little device called CDs.

The legend goes somewhat like this. In trying to create a new audio format, Sony was looking into laserdisc type technology that was completely digital and could be read with a laser producing a fantastic and superior audio experience. The problem is, Sony kept screwing it up.

In a somewhat strange turn, Phillips wanted to show Sony their new fomat for audio in a closed door meeting in order to get the tech off the ground. The English directors sat with Sony's big wigs and pulled out of their pocket a "CD" (What we current;ly know as a CD today. On the other end of the table, Sony pulls out a 13" version of a CD that looks like the size of a record. (Or small Laserdisc) There was much cursing on Son'y end.

I believe Phillips owns the patent for CDs and they have that as one of their benchmarks. "Creators of CD technology". A race Sony did not win.

On the Nintendo / Playstation deal, Nintendo was obviously at fault for BAAAAD business ethics. They signed some pre-lim deals and betrayed Sony by going to a company that beat them to the punch.

In the end it was the best thing that could have happened for Sony.
Over 10 years of great videogames.

It took Nintendo THAT long to come back in the home console market.
I and many others believe Nintendo's almost downfall was sealed when they betrayed Sony. They made it out alive though, so let's see how this plays out!
Gotta love these stories.

You left out the part about how Nintendo would have had to pay Sony licensing fees on each CD title produced. That is why the deal feel through. It would have effectively made Nintendo a third party developer on their own platform. Not to mention the fact that I do not think third parties would have been thrilled with paying both Nintendo and Sony licensing fees. Yamauchi was furious and THAT is when they decided to go with Philips. It was Nintendo's fault for not more carefully reading the fine print. Nintendo was legally at fault but Sony practiced bad business ethics. 



LordTheNightKnight on 01 August 2007
z64dan said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Grey Acumen said:
From what I recall, the reason why Nintendo backed out on the deal was because it would have given Sony complete rights over the CD games produced for that system, and that they would have even had access to use the Nintendo icons like Mario and Zelda without any input from Nintendo.

While admittedly, it was a bit of a slap. It was a necessary slap for Nintendo to survive as a company. While Nintendo may have lost ground since the Playstation came out, they might not even exist at all right now if they had stuck with the original deal.

Either way, I think the competition is good. I was dissapointed with how the N64 and Gamecube were handled, but I don't think there would have ben as much advancement as there has been without the competition spurning them to make the attempts. I'd be incredibly sad to think of what things might have been, if DDR or Smash Bros. had never been created. Without Nintendo as a competitor, Sony might not have bothered to come out with DDR, and without Sony to compete against, Nintendo might not have been willing to try for a game like Smash Bros.

Also, I don't think we would have EVER gotten a system like the Wii if Nintendo hadn't been completely backed up against the wall like this. Nintendo is also perhaps the only company that could have risked the type of innovation they introduced with the Wii. The Playstation's success has all been from 3rd party games and the like. Sony never would have been able to risk the chance that the 3rd party companies wouldn't support the new technology. Nintendo on the other hand has managed to survive almost completely on their own 1st party titles, and so the risk wasn't nearly as huge for them.

DDR? Do you mean Konami's Dance Dance Revolution, or another thing that DDR stands for?


Yeah Konami mighta made DDR still, but on the N64? The N64 carts didn't have space to hold MP3s or anything, they mostly used MIDI soundtracks... Needless to say, many games would have not come out, were it not for the CD tech in the playstation.


 It's the bolded part that I'm calling you on, not whether the game would have fit in a cart (and it could have; Wipeout 64 used songs that were decompressed as levels loaded).



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