what i dont get is in nintendo's report the attach rate was 10. something

in europ it was 8

link? Even if you used nintendo's shipped software numbers with the sold install base at that time you wouldn't get 10.

Wasn't there a recent Nintendo releasing of some sort that they stated the number of software sold and it was like some huge number higher than the total sold this year based on this site.

You can't base any judgement off of a free tracking site that even claims its software is very incomplete. And where is the infamous attach ratio, i thought you software guys loved to throw that out there.

i mean sure if sold 100 consoles and 50 games, yet my competitor sold 25 consoles and 25 games he wins right? he has a better attach rate.

 For the very last time, you are wrong. Guitar Hero, Mario and Sonic, Carnival Games, and Game Party have sold a combined total of just over 6 million titles. That means there are 34 million games being sold that are not in any of those franchises. Or in other words, the vast majority of the third party software that is selling is not included in your assertion. You have accounted for less than 14% of the total games sold by the Wii in this time span.

 Boom Blox was a success based on EA reports. No More Heroes sold so well at launch the developers threw a party to celebrate. It has been the best selling Suda51 game ever made, and the last one was released on the PS2! It has done so well they are making a sequel for it which I have never heard of for another Suda game.

 Now you seem to want to discredit minigame collection as the same game in a different box. That is laughable. I can say Call of Duty 4 sales on the 360 doesn't count because it is Halo 3 in a different box. You may not like the genre, and you clearly know nothing about it but that does not mean it is an invalid genre. It means you are entirely ignorant on a topic you keep talking about. Go read, play, and learn about what you are attaempting to comment on so you can at least contribute something of substance rather than just spouting off what you feel should be right. Doing anything else is essentially making random comments that are in no way shape or form associated with reality, and are thus a waste of everyones time.

funny, i do know some people who bought wii fit for the board.

So they bought it for We Ski?

shaun white for xmas lol!

I was like, I can't picture myself playing for more than an hour, but they were really excited about it. Of course they are big ssx tricky fans, as they should be, so maybe that is part of it.

Okay, wow. So this WASN'T a joke thread? I was going to type a rebuttal but didn't want to waste my breath when dirtyp took of his mask and revealed himself to be a rol sockpuppet.

But it's even more hilarious that it's a real thread. All of these mods strolling in, adding to the smackdown. It should be framed for all to see.

I really can't think of anything new to say in terms of disproving the full OP, so I'll focus on Wii Play, which many people bring up in this thread as well as similar ones.

One of the arguments, that people don't buy Wii Play for the game, is obviously false. If someone really, really doesn't want to play Wii Play, he/she will not buy it unless he/she likes to waste money, which I'm quite sure is not true for the majority of customers. So the argument must be that after someone willfilly buys Wii Play, he/she immediately dislikes the game or eventually loses interest, and that such a group could very well be the majority of purchasers. 

I would like to ask, what happens to any game the player loses all interest in? It hits the second-hand market, unless the player just doesn't like to sell his/her games, a situation which applies to all games that player buys (and there's no known way or reason to seek out these strange people and figure out which games they dislike but will not sell). So guess what happens to Wii Play when a buyer doesn't like it? It hits the second-hand market!

So in other words, I don't see how the game is irrelevant to sales, unless it's because it costs only $10. But if we're arguing revenue/profit instead of sales, we shouldn't even be using raw sales numbers in the first place.

@ Gnizmo

The only one wasting your time is you.  No one is forcing you to read or post anything.

Just because you disagree with my point of view does not mean you are correct.  And just because I have a (totally valid and data-supported) criticism of the Wii's ability to spin off quality,  critically and commercially successful 3rd party hits does not mean I hate your precious system.  I have one, and I support it, and I personally have raised both attach rates for it.

Quit stalking my posts, if you please.  Agree to disagree and move on. 

I WANT the Wii to spin off some quality games that really do change gaming for the better.  Wii Play and Carnival Games ain't it.  The Wii has the opportunity to either expand gaming in creative, imaginative ways that are good for gaming; I'm hoping it's a platform that does it.  But until its users demand more than crappy ports and mini-game collections(however fun), it 's not going to happen.