First off, I never really liked Enix that much.  They were always an also ran to Square, publishing not quite great games.  They were the publishers of a handful of games I did like (Dragon Warrior 4, Brain Lord, Legend of Gaia) but the good games were sporatic and not that great.  The best Enix games I can think of wouldn't even make my Square soft top 10.

 SNES and PSX era Square though was the opposite.  They made some of the most fun, most amazing games that defined the SNES and PSX (and even, to a lesser extent, the PS2) as the place to go for RPGs.  From Chrono Trigger, the best of the SNES RPGs, to FF 4 and 6 (6 being a serious contender for that best RPG title) there were just tons of great Square games through the SNES's life cycle.

    What JRPG fan doesn't think of Secret of Mana...hell even Secret of Evermore...with a smile?

   It only got better on the Playstation.  Every few months there was an absolutely stellar RPG from Square coming out.  Parasite Eve 1 and 2, FFVII, that Ehergize fighting game with the RPG portions, Front Mission, Vagrant Story (the best RPG most people never heard of), Valkryie Profile....the list just goes on and on.  If I were to list the best 20 console RPGs of all time, without a doubt at least 15 would be from Square.

  On the PS2 things looked good initially, Final Fantasy X was easily the best FF game since 7, they threw out a few curve balls like the Bouncer which were pretty decent though not great and they even started a pretty good new series, Kingdom Hearts.  There was a lot to like about Square's future and then suddenly...the Enix merger.

   Ever since that merger its like the quality fell off a cliff.  They have stopped being Square and have become Enix.  They are mainly publishers and the publish crap games.  They only have exploitations of their old games and nothing new thats any good...I mean I can't think of a single Square Enix game I have liked in half a decade.  In the 5 years the PSX was number one they made 10 of the best games of all time and now they can't manage a single quality title?  The closest one is Crisis Core, which isn't bad, but it sure as hell wasn't up to what I would have expected from old square.  

  Now the Last Remnant comes out and its crap, not a surprise after Infinite Undiscovery and everything else they've pushed out the door in the past few years has been horrifically bad.  I'm just continually amazed at how far the best company of the last three generations (well only half of the PS2 gen) has fallen.  I find myself ignoring Square now and looking to Atlus, ATLUS! for all my good RPG games.  I mean it wasn't that long ago that ATLUS was the also ran putting out substandard games and now its 100% reversed.  Persona 3 was the best RPG of the past few years, Square doesn't even have a game in contention.

  I'm starting to seriously consider the possibility that Final Fantasy 13 might suck.....think of how horrible that would be.

I disagree about Enix killing Square. It's the other way around IMO.

Still SE sucks big time, and it's a big waste of time for gamers in general.

You think Enix alone was better then Squaresoft alone (the SNES/PSX era)?

Just out of curiosity, what game makes you think that?

Did you just call Crisis Core better than Final Fantasy 12

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2 things I´m only gonna say: Valkyrie Profile is an Enix IP and Atlus, except their Megaten franchises and a couple of other games, publish a hell lot of crap. Atlus Megaten games always had a remarkable quality anyway.

No. Square was the one that killed itself. There was few stupidies that Square did, such as Spirit Within, that really put Square into troubles. After that, Square haven't really reconsidered their business strategies, leading them doing games with risk-sized budgets, leading them into milking their old games with remakes etc...

Who stated that...? after discovering that Enix never actually made their DQ games by themselves, and only published them, I lost a lot of respect for the company.

Squares downfall came long before they merged with Enix.

They just managed to drag Enix down with them.

Why? Wada. SE's CEO.

Enix was doing Square a BIG favor in the merger and wouldn't of even went through with it if it weren't for Sony propping up SE with cash.

I don't know why it is that Square now sucks and can't publish great titles anymore but they have really gone to crap since the merger. I'm tired of the endless remakes and milking of franchises. In the past they pumped out new amazing ips all the time, and they were great. Now, I didn't even care for the last final fantasy game. I don't know who is to blame but they need to work it out fast. Hell, there only one big game is taking 10 years to push out, it might even be on the ps4....

First off your opening 2 statements alone make you sound biased... so this thread is hardly worth looking at. secondly 7th Saga was a great SNES game you didn't mention. Thirdly FF 7 and X were both over hyped. Once you got past the ooooo and aaaaaaa's of the movies the gameplay wasn't much to speak of(You could have gotten as much out of Dragon Quest 7 and got better out of Grandia, Persona, and a list of RPG's I'm not going to bother with.) I'm sorry but 9 and 12 are the best Final Fantasies I've played over the past 2 generations... Nope take that back 8 and 12.

Of course everyone knows I think Tactics is the Best overall FF on Playstation.

Also, Square is the one that has shot itself in the foot basically by throwing Final Fantasy in front of almost every new game they release. (Seriously would it have surprised you to find out that they were going to make Final Fantasy Gothic Street Punk Funky Adventure before they thought up the name The World Ends With You) and ruining a lot of it's classic franchises. Enix didn't do that.