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I don't know about in the states, but pot is pretty cheap in Canada. Unless you factor in the price of munchies of course.



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stof said:
I don't know about in the states, but pot is pretty cheap in Canada. Unless you factor in the price of munchies of course.

It's cheaper in Canada... or at least compared to where i'm from and what i've seen.

Where I'm from (i have a lot of pothead friends) it tends to run $25 an eight, $45 half a quarter, 75 half an ounce...

and this is the cheap stuff... the kinda stuff you wouldn't even buy in Canada beacuse it was low quality.

In Canada, in a random hotel i believe my friends got the same amount for the same price, of a higher quality in which you'd have to pay like double to get in the US.



Kasz216 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
kabhold said:
Commando said:
1. Smoking tobacco actually CAN deoxodize the brain which can cause laziness, and in addition to the fact it is a stimulant with a bigger spike than marijuana, the withdrawl symptoms are a lot harder and can cause even more laziness.

2. You ever see fat chain-smokers? There are a lot of laziness to be found in that bunch.

1. Use common sense. The short term effect of tobacco is nothing compared to the long term effect of weed on the brain. U know it, I know it.

2. I live in america. i see fat people everywhere I look.

All the trashiest/laziest people I've ever known smoke weed. I doubt that's a coincidence

Actually it is a coincidence.  Carl Sagan smoked a ton of weed and even said it inspired some of his works.  Carl Sagan was neither trashy nor lazy.

Actually current research does suggest that regular marijuana use does lower activity in the area of your brain that takes care of planning long term plans and going through with them.

Likely do to it restricting bloodflow in the brain.

Not that i care nor think it should be illegal.  People should be able to stunt their long term planning abilties as much as they want.

Though I like RuBang would legalize even the crazy drugs.

I don't believe something should be witheld or taken from people just because they are more likely to fuck up their lives. 

The government isn't anyones mother.  People should be able to do whatever they want so long as it doesn't directly harm another person.

Even if there are no positives... and only negatives i'd be for it.  Peoples rights are more important then the bottom line.

Yes.  I agree.  And the people's (majority rules) right to make something illegal/keep it illegal.  And before I hear about there was never a vote... Check the "any pro-weed" political party's record in any election.  The people have a say.  And it has been said.

 



Majority rules has never been a good argument for anything, because the majority used to be in favor of slavery, not letting women vote, not letting biracial couples get married, and many other crazy things. Majority rules can't and shouldn't solve everything, or the majority of white assholes would have voted all the minorities into prison ages ago.

Why do you care what I do with my body? Are your freedoms somehow infringed if I cook up and shoot up some smack right now? Or are my freedoms infringed when you don't let me? I'm all for majority rules when the majority isn't voting to tell the minority what they can and can't do.



Coming from the great liberal country of the Netherlands where Mariuana is legal (well, sort of up to 5 grammes is allowed) and can be sold in our famous Coffeeshops I support more countries that want to legalize.

Reasons are:

People that want to smoke can buy it in a controlled environment. This way they don't have to buy it from a dealer. Dealers also deal in all other kinds of stuff, like harddrugs. Legalizing softdrugs is a way to minimize softdrugs to hardrugs transitions. The number of hardrugs users in the Netherlands is lower than in a lot of other countries, including the strict US.

If softdrugs are legal, it's less cool to use them. People can try without the anxiety of doing something illegal.




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Yea, but that shit stinks, should have strict laws about where you can use it.



It Should Be Legal in any Country that has Smoking Legalised



The Ghost of RubangB said:
Majority rules has never been a good argument for anything, because the majority used to be in favor of slavery, not letting women vote, not letting biracial couples get married, and many other crazy things. Majority rules can't and shouldn't solve everything, or the majority of white assholes would have voted all the minorities into prison ages ago.

Why do you care what I do with my body? Are your freedoms somehow infringed if I cook up and shoot up some smack right now? Or are my freedoms infringed when you don't let me? I'm all for majority rules when the majority isn't voting to tell the minority what they can and can't do.

 

WHY?  Weed smokers raise my health care costs.  You can pull up a million articles stating that weed does nothing to the body... I can pull up the opposite.  Only difference is mine came from a medical database, and yours will come from hightimes.com.  And a good % of weed smokers are usually in the bottom tax bracket.  Which means I'm footing the bill.

Gateway drug.  First drug I did...Wasn't the last.  People move on to harder drugs and commit stupid/horrible crimes.

IT MAKES PEOPLE STUPID.... up to a year or so after they quit (habitual smokers).

I hope you really, in your own mind, you do not compare not smoking weed legally to slavery, not letting women vote, not letting biracial couples get married, etc.



BengaBenga said:
Coming from the great liberal country of the Netherlands where Mariuana is legal (well, sort of up to 5 grammes is allowed) and can be sold in our famous Coffeeshops I support more countries that want to legalize.

Reasons are:

People that want to smoke can buy it in a controlled environment. This way they don't have to buy it from a dealer. Dealers also deal in all other kinds of stuff, like harddrugs. Legalizing softdrugs is a way to minimize softdrugs to hardrugs transitions. The number of hardrugs users in the Netherlands is lower than in a lot of other countries, including the strict US.

If softdrugs are legal, it's less cool to use them. People can try without the anxiety of doing something illegal.


I had a great conversation with a coffee shop girl in Amsterdam. She made me feel so guilty going on about pot addicts, tourists, alcoholism and its similarities. Shes right and the rest of the world has got to catch up clearly.

Conclusion i dk how these young Dutch feel about their country being a whore and drug tourist destination (probably frustrated) but i got the impression that they see their own people differently and theyre not all pot users.

Marijuana addiction should be openly discussed and treated, legalising it would certainly aid treatment.

 



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
Majority rules has never been a good argument for anything, because the majority used to be in favor of slavery, not letting women vote, not letting biracial couples get married, and many other crazy things. Majority rules can't and shouldn't solve everything, or the majority of white assholes would have voted all the minorities into prison ages ago.

Why do you care what I do with my body? Are your freedoms somehow infringed if I cook up and shoot up some smack right now? Or are my freedoms infringed when you don't let me? I'm all for majority rules when the majority isn't voting to tell the minority what they can and can't do.

 

WHY? Weed smokers raise my health care costs. You can pull up a million articles stating that weed does nothing to the body... I can pull up the opposite. Only difference is mine came from a medical database, and yours will come from hightimes.com. And a good % of weed smokers are usually in the bottom tax bracket. Which means I'm footing the bill.

Gateway drug. First drug I did...Wasn't the last. People move on to harder drugs and commit stupid/horrible crimes.

IT MAKES PEOPLE STUPID.... up to a year or so after they quit (habitual smokers).

I hope you really, in your own mind, do not compare not smoking weed legally to slavery, not letting women vote, not letting biracial couples get married, etc.

If you're worried about health care costs, McDonald's is more to blame for that than weed.

I've never been to hightimes.com, and I'm not a stoner.  I'd rather do opiates or booze than weed.  (I'm more of a Rush Limbaugh, Cindy McCain, Courtney Love type of drug user.)

If you're opposed to a specific drug because the people who use it are in a specific tax bracket, then are you less opposed to drugs that healthy rich people do?

If you're worried about gateway drugs, it won't be a gateway drug if it's legal.

If you're worried about people being stupid... why?  Then shouldn't alcohol and television be illegal?

And yes, I think I can compare many different ways in which majority rules infringes on the rights of minorities, be they a racial minority, or gays, or drug users.  I think everybody should be able to do whatever they want with their own bodies, which includes being free, getting married, voting, and doing any drugs they want, if they want.