Didn't you read the new news from MS PR? They are going to patch it.

I played through the first level. At first i enjoyed it, but then realised all i was doing was driving from 1 jiggy challenge to the other.

By adding vehicles, and showing you on the map where the challenges are they've removed the exploration that made the first so great. I found there was little to discover in the level, and you just drive from 1 point to the next. They should have left it like the first where you have to find the challenges for yourself...

Also, the vehicle control was horrendous. However, i never modified any vehicles, so that might just be because theyre the crappy stock vehicles you start with.

I know about thhat already and I am happy Rare is taking the time to fix the problem.

for that i'd have to start to concider LBP as a game on it's own..... 3 hours campain... a level editor and multiplayer oriented... for the price it's a rip off.... imagine they start selling warcraft with just the tutorial the level editor and online.... or for that matter any other game.... so we have a tech demo on one side and an acual game on the other side.... that's my point of view.... even if it was bad i'd still put down 60 bucks for it before I event start thinking about buying LBP for the same price....

Banjo is less than 40 bucks...  $36.99 at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Banjo-Kazooie-Nuts-Bolts-Xbox-360/dp/B0019MLWL4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1226202046&sr=8-1

they are working on a fix for the text!

I am pretty sure that Banjo's metacritic score will never be anywhere near as high as Little Big Planet's, so that is why I say it is not as good. And the crowd that says things like you have to determine the value of something from your own impressions of it will beg to differ; however, their way might be a nice way to do things, but there have to be standards by which to judge the value of things.

In college literature courses, for example, they don't hand you the Norton Anthology of World Literature and say, "Here's a collection of stories to read, but much better ones were written at the same time. No, they hand you a collection of texts say these are the greatest ones ever written because they made it into the Canon. Homer is the greatest of the Greek writers, Shakespeare is the greatest of the English writers, Dante is the greatest of the Italian authors, Cerevantes is the greatest of the Spanish writers, Goethe is the Greatest of the German authors, Voltaire is the greatest of the French writers, and Doestoevsky is the greatest of the Russian authors. Now prepare to learn them for they are all that matters in the world of arts and letters."

From critical opinion, it appears that LBP is much more likely to join the Canon of games than Banjo: Nuts and Bolts will ever be.

I realize you really want this to be a platform game, but it isn't. Really.

For starters there's this from teh second paragraph of Eurogamers' (7 out of 10 that reads like a 5 out of 10) review:

This isn't a platform game, then. You can eke out hidden extras on-foot in the hub world, Showdown Town, but this is a driving, flying and boating game, with almost no player death or hairy jumps to worry about. You are collecting 131 jigsaw pieces (jiggies) - in much the same framework as Mario gathering stars - but every task begins by asking you to select or build a vehicle to fit the brief. You're never let loose on foot and then given the choice, and if you were, you wouldn't enjoy it, because the vast, ornately detailed openworld level environments would take several minutes to cross, and their thick bridges, riverbeds, hills, pathways, iceflows and buildings are impractical for platforming. They're either there to absorb your rubber, or look sexy as you deliver coconuts to a supply ship, barge Mr. Patch into a cactus with a biplane, or launch yourself off a ski-jump in a homemade toboggan.

I think you're missing the fact that this game is actually missing everything that actually makes a platformer, you know, a platformer.

It may very well not be a racing game in the strict sense, but it most certainly is not a platformer if the word "platformer" has any objective meaning at all (and in this day and age, I realize how malleable words tend to be when fashioning the realisty one wants to live in, regardless of what these words actually mean), and you going on like an ADD headcase that it is doesn't change this fact.

triplebph- ""I am pretty sure that Banjo's metacritic score will never be anywhere near as high as Little Big Planet's, so that is why I say it is not as good.""

Metacritic scores your self decision a 15 out of 100. 

Honestly I wanted a platformer.  After playing two platformers I want a platformer.  Not a custom vehicle race to the jiggy game. 

No platforming no sale.  As well using jumps in a vehicle isn't platforming either.

Perhaps to those that live by the pure old-school platformer definition this is not a platformer in that sense. When I look at Rayman or Mario, I see pure old-school platforming.

That said, platformers have, in more recent times, taken on somewhat of a broader meaning as the genre has looked for ways to reclaim the glory days. I still feel strongly that BK is presented as a platforming game but much of the jumping from spot to spot is navigated on various wheeled, winged, and propellered vehicles. This is where the definition of platforming breaks down for BK but I still feel if you had to put it in one category, it is still a platform game in nature. If one defines a platformer only as jump from place to place and collect stuff, the jump is most certainly largely missing. There is some of that in town, but very little in each world so in that regard, I concede it isn't a pure platformer. All of the things that make a platformer complete -- collecting things, manipulating objects, puzzles, objectives, exploring, etc. ad nauseum are all here, hoever. BK just doesn't jump from place to place to get them. He flys, floats, boats, and drives. As exindguy states, "I'm making the word platformer quite malleable here". Feel free to disagree. I've been gaming since pong and the game, outside of jumping, still feels very "platform" to me.