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If you look at the titles for his articles you can see the guy's agenda pretty clearly...

-PlayStation 3, Doomed to 3rd Place?
-Xbox 360, The Easy Win?
-Wii, Can it be Stopped?



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Sqrl said:
If you look at the titles for his articles you can see the guy's agenda pretty clearly...

-PlayStation 3, Doomed to 3rd Place?
-Xbox 360, The Easy Win?
-Wii, Can it be Stopped?

The headlines accurately reflect the facts in the analyses. PS3 is in trouble, 360 is in the lead and positioned for a big push if MS pulls the trigger, and Wii does appear to be a juggernaut. If he has an agenda, he's fortunate that it is so well aligned with reality.

misterd said:
Sqrl said:
If you look at the titles for his articles you can see the guy's agenda pretty clearly...

-PlayStation 3, Doomed to 3rd Place?
-Xbox 360, The Easy Win?
-Wii, Can it be Stopped?

 

The headlines accurately reflect the facts in the analyses. PS3 is in trouble, 360 is in the lead and positioned for a big push if MS pulls the trigger, and Wii does appear to be a juggernaut. If he has an agenda, he's fortunate that it is so well aligned with reality.

 The point is that you can influence opinions by discussing some aspects of the situation but not all.  The title is a good place to start, as it allows you to set the topic for the article so the reader feels there is no need to go outside the bounds of the topic you have set.  So for the PS3 article we are talking about why it is Doomed, for the Wii article we are talking about how to stop it, and for the 360 article we are talking about What it needs to do to succeed.  These are the first impressions people will get and a good journalists realizes the impact the title of the story can have on the mindset of the reader. 

Basically the title can be just as important as what is said. Now I didn't have any major gripes with the article itself, but that title gives me a good idea of what his personal bias is and from what I have read of the first two articles so far it shows in his writing as well, but I will give him credit for holding it back.

I'm not asking anyone to hang the guy, I just think the titles could have been chosen better..thats all..no big conspiracy here. 

 

 



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BTW, the Wii one will be up tonight, and I'll post it as well.



misterd said:

Sqrl said:
If you look at the titles for his articles you can see the guy's agenda pretty clearly...

-PlayStation 3, Doomed to 3rd Place?
-Xbox 360, The Easy Win?
-Wii, Can it be Stopped?

 

The headlines accurately reflect the facts in the analyses. PS3 is in trouble, 360 is in the lead and positioned for a big push if MS pulls the trigger, and Wii does appear to be a juggernaut. If he has an agenda, he's fortunate that it is so well aligned with reality.


There is more than just fact in his analysis.  He speculates about a lot of things.  I don't think MS could "pull the trigger" and match the Wii for sales anytime soon.  Perhaps MS could compete, on the short term, with the Wii in America but not over a long period.  Chances are the Wii will surpass the 360 for US sales in late 2008 or before mid 2009.



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Well the article doesn't aknowledge that Microsoft still doesn't have the brand name appeal that either Nintendo or Sony in the video game world. People can say it's sales problems as of late are all because of the Red Ring, but the fact that it can't get it's numbers above 200k in a month with Halo 3 just two months away really says to me Microsoft still has a ways to go before the mainstreem gamer treats the brand Microsoft the way they do Nintendo and Sony. Many will buy 360's for Halo 3, no question, but the fact is it's not going to be hip to own a 360 to the same extent it was hip to own a PS1 or PS2 during their dominance, or the way it seems to be hip to get a Wii right now. As for the titles of articles heres how I would have gone.

360, Can a Microsoft console really take off?
PS3, Sleeping giant or a giant who overdosed on his own ego?
Wii, The hot one, but how long will the hype last?



I got all excited when they quoted vgcharts...then i realized...oh...not us...



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But those titles seem to go too far in the other direction - they're not nearly as informative about the content of the article. The thesis of the PS3 article was "stuck in last place", the thesis of the 360 article was "stalled but hopeful", and the thesis of the Wii article will likely be "going strong".



PlayStation 3, Failure to Launch?
Xbox 360, Slow and Steady?
Wii, Is Nintendo Really Back?

Three half-assed titles I might go with. I dunno.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

Sqrl said:
misterd said:
Sqrl said:
If you look at the titles for his articles you can see the guy's agenda pretty clearly...

-PlayStation 3, Doomed to 3rd Place?
-Xbox 360, The Easy Win?
-Wii, Can it be Stopped?

 

The headlines accurately reflect the facts in the analyses. PS3 is in trouble, 360 is in the lead and positioned for a big push if MS pulls the trigger, and Wii does appear to be a juggernaut. If he has an agenda, he's fortunate that it is so well aligned with reality.

The point is that you can influence opinions by discussing some aspects of the situation but not all. The title is a good place to start, as it allows you to set the topic for the article so the reader feels there is no need to go outside the bounds of the topic you have set. So for the PS3 article we are talking about why it is Doomed, for the Wii article we are talking about how to stop it, and for the 360 article we are talking about What it needs to do to succeed. These are the first impressions people will get and a good journalists realizes the impact the title of the story can have on the mindset of the reader.

Basically the title can be just as important as what is said. Now I didn't have any major gripes with the article itself, but that title gives me a good idea of what his personal bias is and from what I have read of the first two articles so far it shows in his writing as well, but I will give him credit for holding it back.

I'm not asking anyone to hang the guy, I just think the titles could have been chosen better..thats all..no big conspiracy here.

 

 


 Sorry to resurrect this one.  Just wanted to say that since I have had a chance to read all of these now I definitely pegged this guy a bit wrong.  I do still think the titles are a poor choice but reading the articles from start to finish one after the other I do think he tried to be as fair as possible to each of the consoles. All in all they are good reads but they don't go over much that someone who reads here regularly doesn't already know.

Just to be clear I didn't expect him to be blatantly biased, I just thought his bias was going to show through subtely. But like I said, I think he was pretty fair in the end, and I jumped the gun on him. 



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