we're talking Killzone 2 and Halo wars here man, not 360 vs ps3 take that somewhere else... The thread is KZ2 V HW and I prefer KZ2 over halo wars . End of story no need for you to start pointless arguments.

So let me get this straight, the only videos they have shown so far is how the control scheme would work and you are basing your entire presumptions on this? You can't judge an RTS by videos, ever. If I saw videos of SC or WC3 I'd think they suck too.

what are you talking about theres tons of videos of raw gameplay showing the game and it looks as stale as the wonder bread at my local grocer. My eyes don't like .

Halo Wars will sell better, just because its part of the Halo Universe, and Microsoft is going to market like crazy.

A. Who U kiddin?

B. I was referring to the validity of your assumption, which is "Halo Wars looks boring and KZ2 is awesome," not the thread topic. Sometimes in threads, the conversation evolves, or gets sidetracked. Someone says something that one may need to respond to.

C. I already gave my opinion on the thread topic. I don't know and have no opinion either way.

D. I didn't bring up console wars. I brought up the bias in your opinion. It's fine for you to have an opinion, but when you start shopping it around trying to sell it, I might add some fine print.

no i wrote that because you're jumping on me cause i prefer kz2 and ps3 over 360,

I think it's only PS3 fanboys who think there is no RTS market for consoles. I take it that's why EA released LOTR BFME2, C&C 3 + Kanes Wrath as well as the upcoming Red Alert 3 on the 360.

Then there is Universe at War, Supreme Commander, Warhammer, Endwar and the up and coming Stormrise which is looking promising. RTS is a growing market on consoles and with the huge Xbox Live audience, developers know they have a large audience that would love to get to grips with this genre of gaming.

thats great did any of those do good? nope

I have never really enjoyed a console RTS, and as an avid fan of the Strategy genre, I can safely say that most console RTS titles are gimped compared to their PC counterparts (especially so in some cases, like that of Supreme Commander).

Those buying RTS on the 360 are casual RTS players at best, and there's a reason why no RTS has yet broken the 520k mark on the console (though Halo Wars surely will).

I know what your saying but with the right control set up RTS can be huge on console especially online. EndWar was a good step forward and I'm sure developers realise this hence they keep releasing them. Personally I quite liked Kanes Wrath control scheme and it was nice to play an RTS on my sofa for once rather than sitting in front of a PC screen hunch back of Notre Dame style. I guess developers can port PC strategy games over to the 360 quite cheaply so selling even half a million will make them a tidy sum. In fact I remember the original Command and Conquer doing quite well on the Saturn and Playstation.