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MANUELF said:
pastro243 said:
fazz said:

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26. Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
25. Kingdom Hearts 2
24. Grandia
23. Skies of Arcadia
22. Planescape Torment
21. Persona 3
20. Deus Ex
19. Disgea Afternoon of Darkness
18. Baldur's Gate 2 Shadows of Amn
17. Elders Scrolls IV
16. Pokemon DP
15. Suikoden 3
14. Mario RPG
13. FF XII
12. Earthbound
11. Mass Effect
10. KOTOR
9. A Link to the Past
8. Xenogears
7. Ultima Series
6. Diablo 2
5. Fallout 3
4. Chrono Trigger
3. Ocarina of Time
2. WoW
1. FF VII

The top spot was kind of expected considering the other games... specially since Zelda is not an RPG.

I like those 3, I think they should have added FFX. Well, there will always be disscussions with these list, but I dont think pokemon is a good RPG, I really think its one of the worst, I enjoyed yellow when I was 9, but after watching my cousin play pokemon on the wii, and watch no improvements in the game besides graphics when they couldve improved much more in gameplay with the hardware, makes me think its a really bad series.

 

Pokemon Battle Revolution is more like Pokemon Stadium than a Pokemon RPG 

 

Its still a bad game, and thats not the only one, I enjoyed silver, but then all the games where the same just with more pokemon, locations and a little better graphics.I know cuz I have a friend that buys everything with pokemon, the wii ones and the DS ones. I mean, it was great on the gameboy, but you can do a much better game in the wii and the DS.

Its a good idea, and with it you could make a great game and a great anime, but both are mediocre in my view, even the digimon world games in the ps1 where better and changed gameplay when the hardware got better, as the 1 season of the anime is better than the pokemon anime.

 



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pastro243 said:
MANUELF said:
pastro243 said:
fazz said:

To not give free traffic to Gamepro:

26. Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
25. Kingdom Hearts 2
24. Grandia
23. Skies of Arcadia
22. Planescape Torment
21. Persona 3
20. Deus Ex
19. Disgea Afternoon of Darkness
18. Baldur's Gate 2 Shadows of Amn
17. Elders Scrolls IV
16. Pokemon DP
15. Suikoden 3
14. Mario RPG
13. FF XII
12. Earthbound
11. Mass Effect
10. KOTOR
9. A Link to the Past
8. Xenogears
7. Ultima Series
6. Diablo 2
5. Fallout 3
4. Chrono Trigger
3. Ocarina of Time
2. WoW
1. FF VII

The top spot was kind of expected considering the other games... specially since Zelda is not an RPG.

I like those 3, I think they should have added FFX. Well, there will always be disscussions with these list, but I dont think pokemon is a good RPG, I really think its one of the worst, I enjoyed yellow when I was 9, but after watching my cousin play pokemon on the wii, and watch no improvements in the game besides graphics when they couldve improved much more in gameplay with the hardware, makes me think its a really bad series.

 

Pokemon Battle Revolution is more like Pokemon Stadium than a Pokemon RPG 

 

Its still a bad game, and thats not the only one, I enjoyed silver, but then all the games where the same just with more pokemon, locations and a little better graphics.I know cuz I have a friend that buys everything with pokemon, the wii ones and the DS ones. I mean, it was great on the gameboy, but you can do a much better game in the wii and the DS.

Its a good idea, and with it you could make a great game and a great anime, but both are mediocre in my view, even the digimon world games in the ps1 where better and changed gameplay when the hardware got better, as the 1 season of the anime is better than the pokemon anime.

 

http://www.smogon.com/ explore this site than say Pokemon is a bad game.

 



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I usually hate these lists, but that one is particularly bad.

Planescape 22, Dues Ex 20, Mass Effect right behind KOTOR at 10 & 11? WTF?

No mention of Fallout 1 or 2 but Fallout 3 scores higher than every game I listed in the previous sentence?

Wow, Gamepro... You suck at life.




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First, someone really needs to tell the guys that Zelda's not an RPG

Now, the list isn't completely bad, there are excellent games mentioned (FFVII, Persona 3, Suikoden 3 -though if I had to pick a single Suiko it wouldn't be #3, Kingdom Hearts) but there are a couple of omissions and a couple of games that shouldn't be there (Mass Effect, and who puts Diamond/Pearl over Gold/Silver????), and the list has an unhealthy tendence to put too many WRPGs.
At least #1, while I don't fully agree, it's a game I'd put very high in my list




zexen_lowe said:
First, someone really needs to tell the guys that Zelda's not an RPG

Now, the list isn't completely bad, there are excellent games mentioned (FFVII, Persona 3, Suikoden 3 -though if I had to pick a single Suiko it wouldn't be #3, Kingdom Hearts) but there are a couple of omissions and a couple of games that shouldn't be there (Mass Effect, and who puts Diamond/Pearl over Gold/Silver????), and the list has an unhealthy tendence to put too many WRPGs.
At least #1, while I don't fully agree, it's a game I'd put very high in my list

If Mass Effect deserves to be there, it's near the bottom of the list. I loved the game but there are many RPGs out there that are better. Most of the WRPGs they put there are good/great, they just got the order completely buggered.

On top of that, they put quite a few games that really aren't RPGs...

 




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SmokedHostage said:
pastro243 said:
MANUELF said:
pastro243 said:
fazz said:

To not give free traffic to Gamepro:

26. Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
25. Kingdom Hearts 2
24. Grandia
23. Skies of Arcadia
22. Planescape Torment
21. Persona 3
20. Deus Ex
19. Disgea Afternoon of Darkness
18. Baldur's Gate 2 Shadows of Amn
17. Elders Scrolls IV
16. Pokemon DP
15. Suikoden 3
14. Mario RPG
13. FF XII
12. Earthbound
11. Mass Effect
10. KOTOR
9. A Link to the Past
8. Xenogears
7. Ultima Series
6. Diablo 2
5. Fallout 3
4. Chrono Trigger
3. Ocarina of Time
2. WoW
1. FF VII

The top spot was kind of expected considering the other games... specially since Zelda is not an RPG.

I like those 3, I think they should have added FFX. Well, there will always be disscussions with these list, but I dont think pokemon is a good RPG, I really think its one of the worst, I enjoyed yellow when I was 9, but after watching my cousin play pokemon on the wii, and watch no improvements in the game besides graphics when they couldve improved much more in gameplay with the hardware, makes me think its a really bad series.

 

Pokemon Battle Revolution is more like Pokemon Stadium than a Pokemon RPG 

 

Its still a bad game, and thats not the only one, I enjoyed silver, but then all the games where the same just with more pokemon, locations and a little better graphics.I know cuz I have a friend that buys everything with pokemon, the wii ones and the DS ones. I mean, it was great on the gameboy, but you can do a much better game in the wii and the DS.

Its a good idea, and with it you could make a great game and a great anime, but both are mediocre in my view, even the digimon world games in the ps1 where better and changed gameplay when the hardware got better, as the 1 season of the anime is better than the pokemon anime.

 

http://www.smogon.com/ explore this site than say Pokemon is a bad game.

 

?? Whats the site about? anyway, I read some of the things in the first page and they look interesting, but I think its nothing that couldnt be done in a patch, the core gameplay on the games hasnt changed a bit in all these years, and it should considering, like I said before, the differences in the hardware that couldve been used to make a much better game.

 



pastro243 said:
MANUELF said:
pastro243 said:
fazz said:

To not give free traffic to Gamepro:

26. Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
25. Kingdom Hearts 2
24. Grandia
23. Skies of Arcadia
22. Planescape Torment
21. Persona 3
20. Deus Ex
19. Disgea Afternoon of Darkness
18. Baldur's Gate 2 Shadows of Amn
17. Elders Scrolls IV
16. Pokemon DP
15. Suikoden 3
14. Mario RPG
13. FF XII
12. Earthbound
11. Mass Effect
10. KOTOR
9. A Link to the Past
8. Xenogears
7. Ultima Series
6. Diablo 2
5. Fallout 3
4. Chrono Trigger
3. Ocarina of Time
2. WoW
1. FF VII

The top spot was kind of expected considering the other games... specially since Zelda is not an RPG.

I like those 3, I think they should have added FFX. Well, there will always be disscussions with these list, but I dont think pokemon is a good RPG, I really think its one of the worst, I enjoyed yellow when I was 9, but after watching my cousin play pokemon on the wii, and watch no improvements in the game besides graphics when they couldve improved much more in gameplay with the hardware, makes me think its a really bad series.

 

Pokemon Battle Revolution is more like Pokemon Stadium than a Pokemon RPG 

 

Its still a bad game, and thats not the only one, I enjoyed silver, but then all the games where the same just with more pokemon, locations and a little better graphics.I know cuz I have a friend that buys everything with pokemon, the wii ones and the DS ones. I mean, it was great on the gameboy, but you can do a much better game in the wii and the DS.

Its a good idea, and with it you could make a great game and a great anime, but both are mediocre in my view, even the digimon world games in the ps1 where better and changed gameplay when the hardware got better, as the 1 season of the anime is better than the pokemon anime.

 

 



List sucks. There are too many non rpg. narritive combat trains that call them selves rpgs. While some of the best RPG aren't even in the list.

I don't know how this person rates their RPG, but it doesn't seem to be based on anything outside of what they have personally played. The style of rpg is all over the board.

Diablo and Baldurs Gate, but no Fallout 1,2. Diablo isn't even an RPG.



Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.

This list is epic fail for do not having FFX.



 

 

 

 

 

pastro243 said:
SmokedHostage said:
pastro243 said:
MANUELF said:
pastro243 said:
fazz said:

 

 

 

 

http://www.smogon.com/ explore this site than say Pokemon is a bad game.

 

?? Whats the site about? anyway, I read some of the things in the first page and they look interesting, but I think its nothing that couldnt be done in a patch, the core gameplay on the games hasnt changed a bit in all these years, and it should considering, like I said before, the differences in the hardware that couldve been used to make a much better game.

 

The gameplay has changed quite a bit.  Natures, Abilities, IV values, EV values, new and more competitive moves, held items, and the separation of special and physical attack among types.. Blue and Red could be summed up an exchange of powerful moves til all of the Pokemon on one team is knocked out.  Diamond and Pearl has achieved great balance in the game and a much deeper competitive mechanic that probably can't be realized by a child playing the game.  Smogon.com has pretty much turned the battling of Pokemon into a science and I doubt a mediorce game is worth doing so.

 



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