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GTAIV08 said:
CaptDS9E said:
It's amazing 360 still won WW with LBP launching in two areas.

 

yet somehow its not amazing when the ps3 stays close at double the price worldwide?

 

 to be fair though this week was probably the most important week to Sony in NA this year. They put all their eggs in the LBP basket. They must have spent so much money on advertising that i dont think the £1m or so they made on the 65k consoles they sold would cover it. LBP was the game everyone hyped up and continues too. It got the reviews, it got the press for the religion thing all over the world. Everyone knows of this game. There were lots of new console deals with this game in mind. Compare these numbers to that of the week of MGS4. It sold nearly 3 times as many consoles then. I can't help but think Sony will look on those numbers for this week and feel gutted. So much hard work was put into hyping the LBP game. 30k more PS3's were sold in Europe then they were in America. That is a massive example of how people are seeing the PS3 in N/A. It sold basically 50% more in europe. So while you say it is staying close this was their ace card where as Microsoft play theirs in the next 2 weeks.



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This week has been very good to me!

My signature looks almost a lock now.



Tease.

Even for me the Wii numbers are simply staggering. With no big releases it can sell those numbers in October. Just Awesome.

I never expected big things for LBP. I'm sure it'll do well but with the PS3 Sony positioned their console to directly fight the xbox which was originally a console for PC gamers and largely still is (lots of FPS, RTS and WRPG all former PC standards)
In doing so Sony moved it away from the platform loving PS2 crowd which is now better served by Wii and ironically 360. Maybe they can win that crowd back but LBP alone can't do it.

Resistance 2 will likely do better. But possibly not as well as GoW2.



 

SaviorX said:
Groucho said:

The supply of the Wii now outpaces the demand, if you go by Reggie's 2.4mil/month numbers. At this rate, the Wii looks to be under 2mil/month, in terms of demand (which is phenominal!), but at last Nintendo can supply the units necessary, and with room to spare.  It looks like any extra Wiis provided now will get eaten up in december, if typical sales patterns apply.

Looks like the Wii hitting 40mil this year will be a nail biter, although Nintendo should be able to provide enough units for 41mil, overall. Should be fun to watch.

Quite the contrary my friend, I think the Wii is not yet close to reaching demand, and Christmas will prove that. As for 40m being a nail-biter, I think (my opinion here) the Wii will be at 42.5m by the years end.

 

I think you need to read what I said a little closer. =)

And, by Nintendo's own account, they won't be able to put enough units on store shelves to beat 41 million units before Jan 1st.  Nintendo currently supplies a little less than 600K units/week (2.4mil/month) -- there are 9 weeks (two months -- i.e. 4.8 million units, assuming Nintendo's production was at 2.4mil a couple months back where, in terms of time, the supply chain begins for current on-shelf units).  With current VGC data, that means that Nintendo cannot even have put enough units in the supply chain to hit the 41 mil mark by Jan 1st, unless they have some mighty big stockpiles.

We saw last year a huuuge jump just before the end of December, as the full Nintendo supply train unloaded itself onto store shelves just as the end of December hit.  I don't believe we will see such a leap this year (not in terms of proportion, anyway), due to the Wiis eternal popularity, and the inability of Nintendo to actually create a stockpile situation this year (because they have been doing a good job keeping the Wiis coming all year, and haven't created the issues that caused last year's jump), given the huge demand (weekly demand is up something like 75% over last year).

Only time will tell if the Nintendo elves are actually making the 3-4 million / month to hit the numbers you're looking for, but tell us in public statements that they are cranking out 2.4 mil/month instead.  Those sneaky business types, wanting to "surprise" the stockholders.  Stockholders love misinformation, you know.  ;)



What's the most funny here is while PS3 and X360 are pushing their big titles they only manage to sell a little bit better than usual. Now Wii is in a period where it lacks big titles and manage to sell amazingly well. I'm very curious to see how much it can sell during holidays.



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My thing is the assumption that, "Gee it sold so much when it wasn't offically released it should sale more when it is released!" No one taking into account of the importance of the pre-order.

...But again like I said before and I will say again, it's shouldn't be about LBP first week, but how it is saling Week 6. If it drops far week six then LBP didn't do what Sony had hoped it would do...namely expand it's userbase.



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...Imagine how boring the interweb would be if everyone thought logically?

...Really the way Nintendo positioned itself these first 2 years I understand more now watching Sony's attempt to capture the Casual market back that the PS2 once held. It's easier to capture the hardcore with great games then the casual market.



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CaptDS9E said:
GTAIV08 said:
CaptDS9E said:
It's amazing 360 still won WW with LBP launching in two areas.

 

yet somehow its not amazing when the ps3 stays close at double the price worldwide?

 

A little touchy aren't you. When Sony's big holiday release comes out, I except the system to sell.  Actually I expected it to sell a lot more then it did. 

 

whats the big holiday release?



atma998 said:
What's the most funny here is while PS3 and X360 are pushing their big titles they only manage to sell a little bit better than usual. Now Wii is in a period where it lacks big titles and manage to sell amazingly well. I'm very curious to see how much it can sell during holidays.

What you forget, of course is that we will never know what PS3's numbers would look like WITHOUT Little Big Planet and Resistance 2, or what 360 would look like without Fable 2 and Gears 2.  I'd argue these numbers ARE boosted because of holiday titles.  Remember that both consoles have had much lower weeks this year and we're just getting to heavy holiday buying, as we flip the calendar to November.

 

For that matter, we don't know how big Wii demand could be if there was a Zelda or Mario or Pokemon or something coming right now.  We don't ever really know what the boost from a game is, because we never know what the consoles would sell without those games.  Comparing to last year at the same time is a guideline, but economics are different, competition is different, prices are different, etc.  Like to compare 360 to last year?  It's pretty comparable.  But last year had a residual Halo 3 boost still and this year it's quite a bit cheaper.  Who knows?

 



Can't we all just get along and play our games in peace?

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KNOW. THE. MARKETSHARE! Huzzah indood.

Handhelds: 783,637
Consoles: 876,762

DS: 78%
PSP: 22%

Wii: 55%
360: 23%
ps3: 22%