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darthdevidem01 on 04 November 2008
Shadowblind said:
darthdevidem01 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
forevercloud3000 said:

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4058.html

Next to Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Insomniac's massively anticipated sequel is probably the biggest PlayStation 3 title of 2008, although we're sure the LittleBigPlanet fans may have something to say about that.

We are set to start working on Resistance 2 as both Arnold and I will soon provide you with two separate reviews for this blockbuster, but in the meantime, we're sure you're interested in what others are saying. Thing is, when it comes to analyzing a next-gen FPS, the critics tend to differ on what makes for an elite title; some put more emphasis on technicals, others want to focus on intensely robust online gameplay. But in the case of a sequel, you can bet that many reviewers are going to be on the lookout for the improvements and enhancements; in other words, is the sequel better than the original? This is a logical approach, of course, but we're here to warn you about the reviews that continue to harp on words like "innovation." These days, it seems that unless every single major release "innovates" in some way; unless it presents gamers with something entirely fresh and new, the game is automatically less than excellent. This is an absurd theory in our eyes, and in the end, we believe a review should more about inherent quality and fun factor.

Thus far, we've seen the low end of reviews from places like GameDaily and Game Informer (8.0 and 8.5 respectively) and the high end from IGN (9.5), Official PlayStation Magazine (9.0), Cheat Code Central (9.6), and Gamer.Blorge (A+,A+). As far as we can tell, though, the central message is pretty simple: Resistance 2 is intense, entertaining, and most worthy of a purchase. Just watch out for reviewers who tend to focus on aspects that simply don't matter much in the larger scheme of things, especially when it comes to the typical consumer.

 

Wow, this is one of the first "damage control" news articles I've ever seen. "Don't listen to the low reviewers, they just focused on the wrong thing." WTF.

This was supposed to be the best game ever. Now it's just "worthy of a purchase?"
...

LBP, MGS4, FF13, GEOW2 or Halo 3 or GTA 4...

 

 

 

Where have you been for the last few weeks?

why what happened?

or is this weird sarcasm?

 



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

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darthdevidem01 on 04 November 2008

@blazinhead

zen has provaed himself to be a epic hypocrite in this thread

lets leave it be now



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

ZenfoldorVGI on 04 November 2008
darthdevidem01 said:
once again zen

tell me if REsistance 2 hype never crossed MGS4, Halo 3, GTa 4, FF13 & even LBP

how the hell was it meant to be "the best game ever?"

how do you come to such a dreadful conclusion?

 

Resistance 2 was, has been, TODAY, touted as the best and most innovated console shooter ever, by a number of people who has posted in this very thread.

I call BS!

That's how it works. You guys use after the fact assumptions, instead of what was said.

LBP in Japan:

"Nobody thought it was actually gonna sell a lot there did they!?"

Trust me, on this forums, I've heard plenty of hype about R2, and from that hype, one would assume that it would be at least as good as Gears 2, which as certainly been hyped to the level of "best game ever."

Let me prove it for you:

 

Resistance wall:

ollie3650 posted 23/09/2008, 04:41
RESISTANCE 2 WILL BE THE BEST GAME EVER IMO
Message

legend92(3) posted 16/10/2008, 01:04
I also just bought this today platinum it was cheap so i thought why not and it is the first FPS i have ever played and well i like it want the next one.
Message

nexzen posted 18/10/2008, 02:59
dis game is sony's answer to halo right now resistance 2 will blow away dis christmas


Now look at this thread:


Over half the people in this thread hype R2 as "better than Gears 2."

If Gears 2 is hyped like those games you've mentioned, then R2 was hyped by a ton of people to be better than those games you've mentioned. "Best game of all time" isn't a reach.



Don't ever come out after the fact and say what happened was "obvious." It wasn't. Nobody knew if G2 was gonna get higher than R2 until it happened, and more than half the people on this forum expected R2 to be better than G2, and some still do.

I hate having to keep saying this, but it doesn't matter anyway.

 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI on 04 November 2008
blazinhead89 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
I am sorry but I have the RESistance 2 beta &

LBP pwns the hell out of it!

& MGS4....well lets not even discuss how greater MGs4 is that Resistance 2

 

This. And zen i thought you said reviews don't Matter , If R2 got 90 Overall or 88 Overall Its still the same Game no?

Reviews don't matter. Never said they did. All I claim is that the reviews aren't based on fanboyism. Something that apparently gets me flamed when a game you want gets only "good" reviews.

 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI on 04 November 2008
darthdevidem01 said:
@blazinhead

zen has provaed himself to be a epic hypocrite in this thread

lets leave it be now

Just because I'm saying something you dont' wanna hear, doesn't mean you have to flame and berate me.

If you don't understand something, don't make assumptions about it. If you don't understand my posts, don't generalize their meanings.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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NYANKS on 04 November 2008
ZenfoldorVGI said:
darthdevidem01 said:
once again zen

tell me if REsistance 2 hype never crossed MGS4, Halo 3, GTa 4, FF13 & even LBP

how the hell was it meant to be "the best game ever?"

how do you come to such a dreadful conclusion?

 

Resistance 2 was, has been, TODAY, touted as the best and most innovated console shooter ever, by a number of people who has posted in this very thread.

I call BS!

That's how it works. You guys use after the fact assumptions, instead of what was said.

LBP in Japan:

"Nobody thought it was actually gonna sell a lot there did they!?"

Trust me, on this forums, I've heard plenty of hype about R2, and from that hype, one would assume that it would be at least as good as Gears 2, which as certainly been hyped to the level of "best game ever."

Let me prove it for you:

 

Resistance wall:

ollie3650 posted 23/09/2008, 04:41
RESISTANCE 2 WILL BE THE BEST GAME EVER IMO
Message

legend92(3) posted 16/10/2008, 01:04
I also just bought this today platinum it was cheap so i thought why not and it is the first FPS i have ever played and well i like it want the next one.
Message

nexzen posted 18/10/2008, 02:59
dis game is sony's answer to halo right now resistance 2 will blow away dis christmas


Now look at this thread:


Over half the people in this thread hype R2 as "better than Gears 2."

If Gears 2 is hyped like those games you've mentioned, then R2 was hyped by a ton of people to be better than those games you've mentioned. "Best game of all time" isn't a reach.



Don't ever come out after the fact and say what happened was "obvious." It wasn't. Nobody knew if G2 was gonna get higher than R2 until it happened, and more than half the people on this forum expected R2 to be better than G2, and some still do.

 

 

 People say a lot of stupid crap when they are excited.  Every time a big game comes out people say things of that nature.  I mean, really? Your just quoting random people on this forum, I mean, this happens with all big games, and the hype for this game didn't come even CLOSE to Halo 3 or even MGS4.  People were harping on the 60 man multiplayer, which is it's most unique point, so this makes sense.  OMG, someone made a dumb statement on the internet, how can this possibly be?!?!?   And as for people in that thread hyping Res 2 over Gears, WELCOME to Vgchartz.  If you don't know the fanboy breakdown yet, you will soon, and it doesn't favor the 360.  I always thought gears was gonna get better scores, so if it's even I'm happy, cause they are both good.



Kasz216 on 04 November 2008
ZenfoldorVGI said:
forevercloud3000 said:

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4058.html

Next to Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Insomniac's massively anticipated sequel is probably the biggest PlayStation 3 title of 2008, although we're sure the LittleBigPlanet fans may have something to say about that.

We are set to start working on Resistance 2 as both Arnold and I will soon provide you with two separate reviews for this blockbuster, but in the meantime, we're sure you're interested in what others are saying. Thing is, when it comes to analyzing a next-gen FPS, the critics tend to differ on what makes for an elite title; some put more emphasis on technicals, others want to focus on intensely robust online gameplay. But in the case of a sequel, you can bet that many reviewers are going to be on the lookout for the improvements and enhancements; in other words, is the sequel better than the original? This is a logical approach, of course, but we're here to warn you about the reviews that continue to harp on words like "innovation." These days, it seems that unless every single major release "innovates" in some way; unless it presents gamers with something entirely fresh and new, the game is automatically less than excellent. This is an absurd theory in our eyes, and in the end, we believe a review should more about inherent quality and fun factor.

Thus far, we've seen the low end of reviews from places like GameDaily and Game Informer (8.0 and 8.5 respectively) and the high end from IGN (9.5), Official PlayStation Magazine (9.0), Cheat Code Central (9.6), and Gamer.Blorge (A+,A+). As far as we can tell, though, the central message is pretty simple: Resistance 2 is intense, entertaining, and most worthy of a purchase. Just watch out for reviewers who tend to focus on aspects that simply don't matter much in the larger scheme of things, especially when it comes to the typical consumer.

 

Wow, this is one of the first "damage control" news articles I've ever seen. "Don't listen to the low reviewers, they just focused on the wrong thing." WTF.

This was supposed to be the best game ever. Now it's just "worthy of a purchase?"

That is some funny damage control.  I don't think anyone thought "best game ever" though... outside of the few people who really overated RFOM and thought it was a great game... when it was just a great launch game.



ZenfoldorVGI on 04 November 2008
NYANKS said:

 

 People say a lot of stupid crap when they are excited.  Every time a big game comes out people say things of that nature.  I mean, really? Your just quoting random people on this forum, I mean, this happens with all big games, and the hype for this game didn't come even CLOSE to Halo 3 or even MGS4.  People were harping on the 60 man multiplayer, which is it's most unique point, so this makes sense.  OMG, someone made a dumb statement on the internet, how can this possibly be?!?!?   And as for people in that thread hyping Res 2 over Gears, WELCOME to Vgchartz.  If you don't know the fanboy breakdown yet, you will soon, and it doesn't favor the 360.  I always thought gears was gonna get better scores, so if it's even I'm happy, cause they are both good.

 

People say a lot of stupid crap all the time.

Something I've heard lately is reviewers gave R2 lower scores because they are pro 360.

I disagree with that.

I've been flamed to hell and back in this thread for that belief.

The games are obviously both good. I dunno which one is better, don't care. Reviews mean nothing outside of the fanboy realm. However, my argument has nothing to do with the validity of said reviews, but instead the damage control used to discredit them.

There are plenty of other ways to discredit reviewers, than by claiming that they hate the PS3.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

blazinhead89 on 04 November 2008
ZenfoldorVGI said:
blazinhead89 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
I am sorry but I have the RESistance 2 beta &

LBP pwns the hell out of it!

& MGS4....well lets not even discuss how greater MGs4 is that Resistance 2

 

This. And zen i thought you said reviews don't Matter , If R2 got 90 Overall or 88 Overall Its still the same Game no?

Reviews don't matter. Never said they did. All I claim is that the reviews aren't based on fanboyism. Something that apparently gets me flamed when a game you want gets only "good" reviews.

 


I Think the thing that got you flamed was when you said "Resitance 2 was ment to be the best game ever, Now it's only worth a Purchase". And to be fair zen, you quoted Nexzen from R2 wall, who can be taken about as serious as Rock on or Crazzyman

ZenfoldorVGI on 04 November 2008
Kasz216 said:

That is some funny damage control.  I don't think anyone thought "best game ever" though... outside of the few people who really overated RFOM and thought it was a great game... when it was just a great launch game.

 

I just quoted you a person who thought it was gonna be the best game ever.

Also, yes, claiming that reviewers are biased against the PS3 is damage control, but it's not funny to me. Neither is saying "don't listen to the lower reviews" like that article stated.

I'm having to defend myself on all sides, but I haven't gone wrong in my arguments. Not this time, and never once did I infer that review scores mattered, or that they were indicative of actual quality.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.