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MaxwellGT2000 on 01 November 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
@woopah
I agree with that, those are probably the devs to show how it's done, I really hope HVS licenses out the quantum 3 engine and maybe some other developers will figure out some tricks they can do to make things look even better. Things on the horizon look very good.

 

They said they are licensing out the Quantum 3 engine once the game is complete.

 

haha actually there's 2 different stories there, I've been all over The Conduit news lol, one quote is "We're not looking to license out the Quantum 3 engine. We're no middle ware developer" which don't quote me on it but I believe that was from Eric.  But originally the story was that was the point of the engine to license out and help improve graphics on the Wii even the first video was to demo the tech of the engine to hopeful buyers.  There's been mentions of licensing out the engine here and there but nothing set in stone, but I hope things go well and they do license out the tech.



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DMeisterJ on 01 November 2008
sc94597 said:
Actually I think CoD 5(wii) looks very similar to CoD 4, with the exception of some things missing like a few shaders, lower res textures,jaggies(due to resolution loss). It doesn't look too far off though.

wot?

What are you smoking?

So you're saying CoD: W@W looks "similar" to CoD4...?

I won't label the photos, you know which is which, but I see nothing similar in the games.  And there never will be.  No Wii game will hinge on CoD4 beauty, and none will really come close.  But like someone else said, it's fine, cause that's not the point.



sc94597 on 01 November 2008

@DmeisterJ That wasn't the point I was trying to make across. I meant in terms of what MaxwellGT2000 was saying "Again I said it will never be the technical powerhouse of the PS3/360 nor anywhere near the poly count and such I'm saying with a year of leaps and bounds in Wii development what do you think about the possibility of a game on Wii with the look and polish of CoD4 that doesn't mean it will be the same texture rez or the poly count but something that gave the feeling of those amazing graphics like visually stunning and just giving the same feeling." Also that screen doesn't seem to represent the final product of the game well. If you look at the gameplay vids you see it looks much much much better than that. Or even if you look at other screens on IGN than that one.



MaxwellGT2000 on 01 November 2008

Also that build of WaW on Wii is kinda old though probably close to the final product, but yes the videos look much nicer. I'm buying CoD:WaW on Wii to have a shooter to tide me over till The Conduit.



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sc94597 on 01 November 2008

Also we should compare outside enviroments to outside environments and not inside to outside.

CoD4(360)

The difference isn't as staggering when you compare outside enviroments. There is a good difference though. Mostly due to lost of resolution.(I.E Jaggies, Textures are more low res)



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MaxwellGT2000 on 01 November 2008

Good screens, I hope they did some AA in CoD:WaW since those screens were taken. It looks really good but some AA could help out a lot.



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Username2324 on 01 November 2008

Not another one of these threads. The Wii simply does not have the power to produce graphics anywhere near that of the PS3 and 360. Anyone who thinks it can is delusional. End of debate.



MaxwellGT2000 on 01 November 2008
Username2324 said:
Not another one of these threads. The Wii simply does not have the power to produce graphics anywhere near that of the PS3 and 360. Anyone who thinks it can is delusional. End of debate.

 

Did you not even read the the discussion!?!?!  I mean come on I kept it kinda short so people wouldn't jump in here and go "dur it can't handle what the PS3 and 360 can"  that's not even the debate, I remember you being a apart of those threads a year ago and you trolled the same statement over and over when we all had said the Wii can't handle the poly count or the rez... so please dude if you post in threads like this at least read the OP or the current discussion instead of posting like you just did, I can't stand a topic to get derailed cause someone didn't even bother to read.



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Username2324 on 01 November 2008
MaxwellGT2000 said:

So the old debate was, CoD4 graphics possible on Wii by the end of the generation, lots of people said it could get close cause of optimizing graphics on Wii and using a lot of tricks of the trade of course.  Now almost a year later where are we on seeing this happen?

Well the first step the CoD4 engine is actually being used on Wii, not even close to 360 or PS3 as far as looks go but it's a step to try and make impressive graphics on the Wii, maybe when infinity ward works on CoD6 they can put some of that time and experience on the Wii build of the CoD4 engine and we can see what it could really look like on Wii.

The second part of this is the Conduit, it has shown you can do lighting and effects on Wii that were once thought impossible or developers just said the Wii CAN'T do.  So they proved there's more in that little white box then the graphics of the countless PETZ titles. Maybe with time you could get just as polished graphics as CoD4 on Wii just less polygons and smoothing things out to give the feeling it's pulling powerhouse graphics of CoD4. 

We all know Wii could never have the exact same textures/polygons of the PS3/360 versions of CoD4 but with developers working hard on the engines they're making for Wii it's more plausable that the Wii could potentially make games that give the graphical pleasure of CoD4.

No amount of polishing will do what you want. Get over it.

 



Username2324 on 01 November 2008
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Back on topic though, think about the work developers like HVS are doing with Wii, and in 2009 developers like them will continue to become more numerous cause they want a piece of the pie. There's a lot people could do with the Wii still so what are y'alls opinions on that?

Again I said it will never be the technical powerhouse of the PS3/360 nor anywhere near the poly count and such I'm saying with a year of leaps and bounds in Wii development what do you think about the possibility of a game on Wii with the look and polish of CoD4 that doesn't mean it will be the same texture rez or the poly count but something that gave the feeling of those amazing graphics like visually stunning and just giving the same feeling.

Without the resolution or poly count you cannot achieve a game that looks anything like COD4.