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"Each of the games took about 11 minutes to install and required between 6.6 and 6.8GB."

Sounds like a complete DVD image file, 6.8GB is the limit for 360 Dual layer DVDs. Or are Gears and Fable 2 cramming DVDs with data to fill up the whole disc?



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LOL. it's not the loading times thats the benefit. I have made a new thread on this. Benefits are. Increase in framerates, almost complete noise change to nearly nothing, and no disc needed.



@ selnor

I imagine fewer pop-in issues, which are quite significant with nearly all top 360 games, but why framerate?

I agree with you on drive noise generation, at night when I tried to play Gears the 360 made so much f*cking noise my girlfriend would wake up after putting in the disc...

It will also allow 360 DVD drives to last longer and prevent disc scratching, the 360 DVD drives are cheap models from the PC world where they aren't strained as much (full harddrive install on the PC vs 360 off disc loading).



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Username2324 said:
MonstaMack said:
Of course It's worth it duh. Less drive access = less RROD from what I understand.
Not to mention your XBox doesn't sound like a army of flesh eating Zergs are approaching as much anymore.

I'm a bit confused by your post. Do you mean less hard drive access or less disc drive access? If you mean the hard drive then running all of your games on the hard drive = more drive acces = more RROD. If you mean the disc drive I simply don't understand, disc drives produce less heat than hard drives, and it is my understanding that RROD results from over heating. So it would in fact not be worth it.

 

Yeah your right. My bad lol. I meant less drive damage, which seems to be the better case this day in age. Falcon RRODs are under 10% still from the general consesus.

 

I'll be burning every game that I play a lot of, especially Halo and Gears. Those games eat the DVD drive.

 



It's just that simple.

ZenfoldorVGI said:
I'd do this for games that play kinda poorly, and have sluggish menus. I bet it would be great for Fable 2, Fallout, and Mass Effect. I would make no difference at all for Dead Space, though.

i died a couple of times in a row on Dead Space and the loading was quite obnoxious there. They also have loading hidden by doors so perhaps they might open faster?

 



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Username2324 said:
MonstaMack said:
Of course It's worth it duh. Less drive access = less RROD from what I understand.
Not to mention your XBox doesn't sound like a army of flesh eating Zergs are approaching as much anymore.

I'm a bit confused by your post. Do you mean less hard drive access or less disc drive access? If you mean the hard drive then running all of your games on the hard drive = more drive acces = more RROD. If you mean the disc drive I simply don't understand, disc drives produce less heat than hard drives, and it is my understanding that RROD results from over heating. So it would in fact not be worth it.

 

Sorry about the late reply. I asked a few of my friends on CAG about the heat/loading time when games were burned to the drive, and infact there was less heat put out when games were played from the hard drive versus the dvd player. So it looks like indeed less heat is put out when games are burned. So not only is your 360 quieter but less prone to RROD. I'll take the word of 10+ people, sorry about that.

 



It's just that simple.

Here are the games transfered to my 120GB Hard Drive:

Mass Effect is 7.1 GB

Halo 3 is 6.9 GB

Fable 2 is 6.8 GB

I'll continue to transfer some games tonight, will post future data.
(Crackdown, Guitar Hero 3, Viva Pinata 2, Kameo, Fallout 3)



     

My Gaming Setup

Crackdown won't copy for some reason. They have tested close to 200 games and a few can't be copied. Here are the following that can't be copied yet:

Big Bumpin'.........................[Not Supported]
Crackdown...........................[Not Supported]
Dead or Alive Xtreme 2..............[Not Supported]
Pocket Bike Racers..................[Not Supported]
Sneak King..........................[Not Supported]

We have no idea on why for Crackdown and DOAX2. The reason for the Burger King games is because they work for XBox and 360, and apparently that has to do with the burning process somehow.

Does the framerate chug still on Mass Effect in some areas? I'm guessing load times are real nice tho.



It's just that simple.

Seriously? Crackdown won't transfer?
I'll test this right now.

[Edit] After testing, it's true, Crackdown won't transfer. WTF?

Anyway, 1 new data for now:

Kameo is 5.9 GB on my Hard Drive

[/Edit]



     

My Gaming Setup

Credit goes to SynGamer on CAG and those that compiled the information.

All Pro Football 2K8................[5.0GB]
Army of Two.........................[5.7GB]
Assassin's Creed....................[6.7GB]
Battlefield Bad Company.............[6.5GB]
Battlestations: Midway..............[5.5GB]
Beautiful Katamari..................[3.4GB]
Big Bumpin'.........................[Not Supported]
Bioshock............................[6.1GB]
Blazing Angels......................[3.4GB]
Blue Dragon.........................[19.9GB]
Brother's in Arms: Hell's Highway...[5.2GB]
Bullet Witch........................[5.2GB]
Bully: Scholarship Edition..........[3.4GB]
Burnout Paradise....................[3.4GB]
Burnout Revenge.....................[4.4GB]
C&C: Tiberium Wars..................[6.6GB]
Call of Duty 2......................[6.0GB]
Call of Duty 3......................[5.8GB]
Call of Duty 4......................[6.7GB]
Cars................................[5.2GB]
Civilization Revolution.............[6.3GB]
Club, The...........................[5.2GB]
Clive Barker's Jericho..............[5.6GB]
Colin McRae Dirt....................[6.4GB]
Command & Conquer 3.................[3.6GB]
Condemned: Criminal Origins.........[5.4GB]
Condemned 2: Bloodshot..............[6.8GB]
Crackdown...........................[Not Supported]
Culdcept Saga.......................[5.2GB]
Darkness, The.......................[6.8GB]
Dark Sector.........................[3.4GB]
Dead or Alive 4.....................[6.8GB]
Dead or Alive Xtreme 2..............[Not Supported]
Dead Rising.........................[6.6GB]
Dead Space..........................[6.6GB]
Devil May Cry 4.....................[6.7GB]
Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit...........[3.4GB]
Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires..........[4.0GB]
Dynasty Warriors 6..................[6.8GB]
Dynasty Warriors Gundam.............[5.6GB]
Earth Defense Force 2017............[3.4GB]
Enchanted Arms......................[6.7GB]
Eternal Sonata......................[6.8GB]
F.E.A.R.............................[4.0GB]
Fable II............................[6.8GB]
Fallout 3...........................[5.9GB]
Far Cry Instincts Predator..........[4.9GB]
Far Cry 2...........................[4.5GB]
FIFA 09.............................[6.0GB]
Fight Night Round 3.................[3.4GB]
Final Fantasy XI....................[6.7GB]
Final Fantasy XI Vana'diel..........[6.7GB]
Flatout Ultimate Carnage............[4.9GB]
Forza 2.............................[5.3GB]
Fracture............................[4.1GB]
Full Auto...........................[3.4GB]
Gears of War........................[6.5GB]
Gears of War 2......................[6.7GB]
Ghost Recon: Advance Warfighter.....[5.2GB]
Ghost Recon: Advance Warfighter 2...[6.8GB]
Golden Axe: Beast Rider.............[6.4GB]
GRID................................[6.6GB]
GTA IV..............................[6.8GB]
Guitar Hero II......................[3.4GB]
Guitar Hero III.....................[3.4GB]
Guitar Hero Aerosmith...............[4.5GB]
Guitar Hero: World Tour.............[3.4GB]
Gun.................................[3.6GB]
Halo 3..............................[6.3GB]
Hitman: Blood Money.................[5.8GB]
Infinite Undiscovery................[12.5GB]
Juiced 2............................[5.7GB]
Just Cause..........................[5.6GB]
Kameo: Elements of Power............[5.9GB]
King Kong...........................[6.5GB]
Kingdom Under Fire Circle of Doom...[4.3GB]
Lara Croft Tomb Raider: Legend......[6.7GB]
LEGO Batman.........................[6.0GB]
LEGO Indiana Jones..................[4.4GB]
LEGO Star Wars: Complete Saga.......[5.8GB]
LEGO Star Wars: Original Trilogy....[3.4GB]
Lost Odyssey........................[23.2GB]
Lost Planet.........................[6.8GB]
Lost Planet Colonies Edition........[6.7GB]
Lost Via Domus......................[4.2GB]
LOTR: Battle For Middle Earth.......[4.4GB]
Madden 2009.........................[6.7GB]
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance...........[5.9GB]
Mass Effect.........................[6.8GB]
Mercenaries 2.......................[6.4GB]
Midnight Club: LA...................[6.0GB]
Moto GP 06..........................[4.6GB]
Naruto Rise of a Ninja..............[5.3GB]
NBA 2K9.............................[3.4GB]
NBA Live 09.........................[6.3GB]
NFL Head Coach 2009.................[5.8GB]
NFS Most Wanted.....................[6.8GB]
NHL 09..............................[5.7GB]
Ninety Nine Nights..................[5.6GB]
Ninja Gaiden II.....................[6.8GB]
Oblivion............................[6.7GB]
Orange Box, The.....................[4.7GB]
Perfect Dark Zero...................[5.3GB]
Pocket Bike Racers..................[Not Supported]
Prey................................[5.0GB]
Project Gotham Racing 3.............[6.2GB]
Project Gotham Racing 4.............[6.0GB]
Pro Evolution Soccer 6..............[3.4GB]
Quake 4.............................[5.9GB]
Quantum of Solace...................[6.8GB]
Rainbow Six: Vegas..................[6.7GB]
Rainbow Six: Vegas 2................[6.6GB]
Ridge Racer 6.......................[6.5GB]
Rock Band...........................[5.2GB]
Rock Band 2.........................[6.3GB]
Rumble Roses XX.....................[4.5GB]
Saints Row..........................[6.8GB]
Saints Row 2........................[6.8GB]
Samurai Warriors 2..................[6.6GB]
Samurai Warriors 2 Empires..........[3.4GB]
Scene It............................[6.8GB]
SEGA Rally..........................[4.2GB]
SEGA Superstars Tennis..............[3.4GB]
Shadowrun...........................[4.3GB]
Simpson's Game, The.................[4.7GB]
skate...............................[6.8GB]
Sonic the Hedgehog..................[5.6GB]
Sneak King..........................[Not Supported]
Soul Calibur IV.....................[5.9GB]
Space Chimps........................[3.4GB]
Spider-Man 3........................[3.7GB]
Spider-man Web of Shadows...........[6.2GB]
Splinter Cell: Double Agent.........[6.8GB]
Star Trek Legacy....................[5.7GB]
Stranglehold........................[6.7GB]
Stuntman Ignition...................[5.8GB]
Superman Returns....................[3.4GB]
Tales of Vesperia...................[5.9GB]
The Forced Unleashed................[6.6GB]
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09.............[6.0GB]
Timeshift...........................[5.8GB]
Tomb Raider Anniversary.............[6.4GB]
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland......[5.0GB]
Too Human...........................[6.2GB]
Unreal Tournament 3.................[6.4GB]
Virtua Fighter 5....................[4.7GB]
Viva Pinata.........................[5.0GB]
Warriors Orochi.....................[6.4GB]
Warriors Orochi 2...................[6.8GB]
Wartech Senko no Ronde..............[3.4GB]
WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2007...........[6.8GB]
WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2009...........[6.6GB]
Xbox Live Arcade Compilation Disc...[5.9GB]



It's just that simple.