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HappySqurriel on 30 October 2008
akuma587 said:
ManusJustus said:
Palin and her husband are involved with the Alaska Independence Party, they actually want to leave the United States and start their own country. How patriotic is that?

What many of you dont understand is that Bill Ayers, this Palestinian guy, and many other such figures are professors and community leaders. They serve on numerous educational boards, they attend university and city functions. Barrack Obama and many other people (even conservative Republicans) know these people because its their job. If you are Chicago's education board and Bill Ayers is the head of the education department at a university, you are required to meet him and talk about education.

If you are white and insane no one cares.  It just matters if you are a minority and you are a radical.

 

Actually ... When watching CNN they did a truthbusters segment on Sarah Palin's "connection" to the Alaska Independence Party and said any claims associating the two were false.

At the same time, anyone who would defend Bill Ayers because he is a professor and that some how compensates for his attempt to murder dozens of people really needs to reconsider their priorities. There are enough ways to change the direction of government in a democracy that any act of (murderous) treason is completely unforgiveable.

Edit: At the same time I think your comment is (kind-of) ironic because you seem not to about a white insane person (Bill Ayers).



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superchunk on 30 October 2008

The Palestinian isn't a radical. This rumored video is news because the Palestinian is a leader in a prominent Palestinian leader in a US/PA political org and Obama supposedly said something that can be construed as anti-Israeli. It isn't shocking that a Palestinian in a US political group is speaking out against Israel is it? AND that is hardly "radical".

i.e. this is a non-issue and LATimes is ignoring it because too many people will make a lot of noise about nothing.

Personally, I would love a president who was anti-Israel. This way we could actually get a real peace negotiation.



Kasz216 on 30 October 2008
Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Well there have bee fairly credible reports that Obama is fairly pro Palestine and he just dones't talk about it because he thinks it's political suicide.

That said, i think he'd back Israel if they were attacked by another country, and outside that it doesn't matter much. Just means he won't get a deal in the middle east done.

Which nobody ever seems to do as they wait till like the last couple years of there presidency as if they were pulling an all night carm session, even though that kind of thing needs to get done BEFORE then since one side or the other is going to see the next preisdent as more beneficial to them.

To be honest the only deal that can be done is a sovereign state of Palestine with an East Jerusalem capital, no Israeli roadblocks and at least partial dismantlement of their settlements. No other deal can really happen.

 


Really, no deal will get done then.  The Israelis will never agree to going back to the previous borders that were decided on because when they extended their hand in agreement they ended up with a war.

I can't ever picture them actually agreeing to scede any part of Jerusalem.



Untouch on 30 October 2008

I saw a picture of Mackenzie King with Hitler.

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HappySqurriel on 30 October 2008
superchunk said:
The Palestinian isn't a radical. This rumored video is news because the Palestinian is a leader in a prominent Palestinian leader in a US/PA political org and Obama supposedly said something that can be construed as anti-Israeli. It isn't shocking that a Palestinian in a US political group is speaking out against Israel is it? AND that is hardly "radical".

i.e. this is a non-issue and LATimes is ignoring it because too many people will make a lot of noise about nothing.

Personally, I would love a president who was anti-Israel. This way we could actually get a real peace negotiation.

Isn't that like saying that you would love a principle at a school to be anti-geek so there would be less conflicts with them and the bullies?

 



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Kasz216 on 30 October 2008
HappySqurriel said:
superchunk said:
The Palestinian isn't a radical. This rumored video is news because the Palestinian is a leader in a prominent Palestinian leader in a US/PA political org and Obama supposedly said something that can be construed as anti-Israeli. It isn't shocking that a Palestinian in a US political group is speaking out against Israel is it? AND that is hardly "radical".

i.e. this is a non-issue and LATimes is ignoring it because too many people will make a lot of noise about nothing.

Personally, I would love a president who was anti-Israel. This way we could actually get a real peace negotiation.

Isn't that like saying that you would love a principle at a school to be anti-geek so there would be less conflicts with them and the bullies?

 

The last time that happened the bullies got ants thrown in their room, had one of their girlfriends raped, the rest violated by having their naked bodies show to the entire campus and got liquid heat put on their privates.

Ok... so that wasn't the last time... and the principal wasn't actually pro-nerd but for some reason able to be bullied by some lame football coach.

 

 



akuma587 on 30 October 2008
HappySqurriel said:
akuma587 said:
ManusJustus said:
Palin and her husband are involved with the Alaska Independence Party, they actually want to leave the United States and start their own country. How patriotic is that?

What many of you dont understand is that Bill Ayers, this Palestinian guy, and many other such figures are professors and community leaders. They serve on numerous educational boards, they attend university and city functions. Barrack Obama and many other people (even conservative Republicans) know these people because its their job. If you are Chicago's education board and Bill Ayers is the head of the education department at a university, you are required to meet him and talk about education.

If you are white and insane no one cares.  It just matters if you are a minority and you are a radical.

 

Actually ... When watching CNN they did a truthbusters segment on Sarah Palin's "connection" to the Alaska Independence Party and said any claims associating the two were false.

At the same time, anyone who would defend Bill Ayers because he is a professor and that some how compensates for his attempt to murder dozens of people really needs to reconsider their priorities. There are enough ways to change the direction of government in a democracy that any act of (murderous) treason is completely unforgiveable.

Edit: At the same time I think your comment is (kind-of) ironic because you seem not to about a white insane person (Bill Ayers).

But you forget that Obama is black and "might be a terrorist".  Ayers is just a means to an end to reinforce the myth that Obama is a turban-wearing, Islam loving, pita eating terrorist.  Plus, Ayers is a professor, and the GOP loves to badmouth intellectuals and "elitists."

 



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Kasz216 on 30 October 2008
akuma587 said:
HappySqurriel said:
akuma587 said:
ManusJustus said:
Palin and her husband are involved with the Alaska Independence Party, they actually want to leave the United States and start their own country. How patriotic is that?

What many of you dont understand is that Bill Ayers, this Palestinian guy, and many other such figures are professors and community leaders. They serve on numerous educational boards, they attend university and city functions. Barrack Obama and many other people (even conservative Republicans) know these people because its their job. If you are Chicago's education board and Bill Ayers is the head of the education department at a university, you are required to meet him and talk about education.

If you are white and insane no one cares.  It just matters if you are a minority and you are a radical.

 

Actually ... When watching CNN they did a truthbusters segment on Sarah Palin's "connection" to the Alaska Independence Party and said any claims associating the two were false.

At the same time, anyone who would defend Bill Ayers because he is a professor and that some how compensates for his attempt to murder dozens of people really needs to reconsider their priorities. There are enough ways to change the direction of government in a democracy that any act of (murderous) treason is completely unforgiveable.

Edit: At the same time I think your comment is (kind-of) ironic because you seem not to about a white insane person (Bill Ayers).

But you forget that Obama is black and "might be a terrorist".  Ayers is just a means to an end to reinforce the myth that Obama is a turban-wearing, Islam loving, pita eating terrorist.  Plus, Ayers is a professor, and the GOP loves to badmouth intellectuals and "elitists."

 

Really?  You think the fact that someone worked closley with someone who bombed the pentagon is a means to an end?

That in of itself is usually the kind of thing that would make it hard for someone to even get elected to a city council.  Though nobody cares about Ayers because he was bombing during vietnam... vietnam was unpopular and he got off because the feds overstepped in trying to find him.

To most people pretty much anything was ok to stop the vietnam war or something.  I mean the guy is a professor now... and considered a well known and well respected one.

The weird thing too is i'm pretty sure Psych a tv show on the USA network based an episode off the whole thing.

 



Coca-Cola on 30 October 2008
Kasz216 said:
akuma587 said:
HappySqurriel said:
akuma587 said:
ManusJustus said:
Palin and her husband are involved with the Alaska Independence Party, they actually want to leave the United States and start their own country. How patriotic is that?

What many of you dont understand is that Bill Ayers, this Palestinian guy, and many other such figures are professors and community leaders. They serve on numerous educational boards, they attend university and city functions. Barrack Obama and many other people (even conservative Republicans) know these people because its their job. If you are Chicago's education board and Bill Ayers is the head of the education department at a university, you are required to meet him and talk about education.

If you are white and insane no one cares.  It just matters if you are a minority and you are a radical.

 

Actually ... When watching CNN they did a truthbusters segment on Sarah Palin's "connection" to the Alaska Independence Party and said any claims associating the two were false.

At the same time, anyone who would defend Bill Ayers because he is a professor and that some how compensates for his attempt to murder dozens of people really needs to reconsider their priorities. There are enough ways to change the direction of government in a democracy that any act of (murderous) treason is completely unforgiveable.

Edit: At the same time I think your comment is (kind-of) ironic because you seem not to about a white insane person (Bill Ayers).

But you forget that Obama is black and "might be a terrorist".  Ayers is just a means to an end to reinforce the myth that Obama is a turban-wearing, Islam loving, pita eating terrorist.  Plus, Ayers is a professor, and the GOP loves to badmouth intellectuals and "elitists."

 

Really?  You think the fact that someone worked closley with someone who bombed the pentagon is a means to an end?

That in of itself is usually the kind of thing that would make it hard for someone to even get elected to a city council.  Though nobody cares about Ayers because he was bombing during vietnam... vietnam was unpopular and he got off because the feds overstepped in trying to find him.

To most people pretty much anything was ok to stop the vietnam war or something.  I mean the guy is a professor now... and considered a well known and well respected one.

The weird thing too is i'm pretty sure Psych a tv show on the USA network based an episode off the whole thing.

 

I like this show.

 



Kasz216 on 30 October 2008
Coca-Cola said:
Kasz216 said:
akuma587 said:
HappySqurriel said:
akuma587 said:
ManusJustus said:
Palin and her husband are involved with the Alaska Independence Party, they actually want to leave the United States and start their own country. How patriotic is that?

What many of you dont understand is that Bill Ayers, this Palestinian guy, and many other such figures are professors and community leaders. They serve on numerous educational boards, they attend university and city functions. Barrack Obama and many other people (even conservative Republicans) know these people because its their job. If you are Chicago's education board and Bill Ayers is the head of the education department at a university, you are required to meet him and talk about education.

If you are white and insane no one cares.  It just matters if you are a minority and you are a radical.

 

Actually ... When watching CNN they did a truthbusters segment on Sarah Palin's "connection" to the Alaska Independence Party and said any claims associating the two were false.

At the same time, anyone who would defend Bill Ayers because he is a professor and that some how compensates for his attempt to murder dozens of people really needs to reconsider their priorities. There are enough ways to change the direction of government in a democracy that any act of (murderous) treason is completely unforgiveable.

Edit: At the same time I think your comment is (kind-of) ironic because you seem not to about a white insane person (Bill Ayers).

But you forget that Obama is black and "might be a terrorist".  Ayers is just a means to an end to reinforce the myth that Obama is a turban-wearing, Islam loving, pita eating terrorist.  Plus, Ayers is a professor, and the GOP loves to badmouth intellectuals and "elitists."

 

Really?  You think the fact that someone worked closley with someone who bombed the pentagon is a means to an end?

That in of itself is usually the kind of thing that would make it hard for someone to even get elected to a city council.  Though nobody cares about Ayers because he was bombing during vietnam... vietnam was unpopular and he got off because the feds overstepped in trying to find him.

To most people pretty much anything was ok to stop the vietnam war or something.  I mean the guy is a professor now... and considered a well known and well respected one.

The weird thing too is i'm pretty sure Psych a tv show on the USA network based an episode off the whole thing.

 

I like this show.

 

I'm right though right?  I mean i'm pretty sure i remember an episode where a college teacher who taught a bunch of radicals to bomb places... and was still teaching at a college was murdered... and there was a mystery to track down the killer and his other followers who might be targeted next.