Really? I have it on pc and there's only a cd check and thats it. The cd key used for Windows Live is completely optional to use.

Those DRM things install automatically. You don't even know you have them.

Is there confirmeable proof of this.

http://www.slashgear.com/fallout-3-drm-wont-be-that-bad-0318135/

This says otherwise

Starforce uses a CD key.  It also puts something on your drive that can screw up your burner.   Pretty sure nobody uses Starforce outside of eastern europeon countries though.

Buy the game then download a pirated version. Your honesty is in tact and you get to ignore the fucking annoying DRM.

Any game that has these 2 DRM features doesn't tell you it installs them on your computer, well maybe in the ToS agreement, but that's it.

Was reading this forum
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=21860
according to this, the russian version is using Starforce and US/European version is using Securom. And from my article I posted before, Bethesda did say there would be no install limits.

Very good idea, maybe I shouldn't have stopped my download at all... Ah, the beauty of the 2nd largest bandwidth in the US.

I was on the Bethesda official forums, there is Securom. It's not the end of the world, there's no install limit. I also have Daemon Tools running and its not interfering at all. Plus there's a patch too fix this.