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just for the lolz, i'd love high voltage to include a title screen for the conduit that is more technologically advanced than RE5's screen.



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@libellule: You obviously have no clue about anything. Most analysts were predicting last year that the Wii fad would die come this year. You believe that devs don't trust analysts? They even pay them gross amounts of money to get an overall analysis of what's happening. Obviously when they asked themselves if making games for the Wii was worthy, their analysts said the exact opposite thing. The truth is that those analysts failed really badly, and the Wii is simply destroying the competition.

You say there's a lack of third party support, yea there is. But because devs got caught unaware. Wii would be in heaven right now if it had received the amount of good games the HD consoles received, but unluckily that was not the case. Wii only got the afterthoughts and scraps at the beginning of this gen and that's where the myth of "third party games don't sell on the Wii" comes from. I believe a huge portion of the core audience simply moved to the HD's because of the lack of good 3rd party support, but they will be coming back once the games start arriving as soon as early next year.

As of late Japanese devs started shifting their attention towards the Wii and this year a lot of 3rd party announcements were made in comparison to the HD's. Still there will always be some stubborn companies like SE, Konami and Capcom I understand that. There's a very good list made by Onimusha with the upcoming Wii games, with tons of good ones coming out.

You need to understand the market before going out and saying the Wii is a crappy kiddy casual console and that "The empire" is going to get all the games. Just think about it, devs were caught unaware. If they have had the crystal ball, Wii would be flooded by good third party games.



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libellule said:

trestres said:
@libellule: Games take more than a year to develop, such ignorance is not allowed here.

==> it depends of the game. Some games can be quicker to make than others. Also we are +1 year away of E32007, and SF4/RE5 are still not for the Wii and PES09 is delayed.

 



 You are right, some games can be made in under a year. And hundreds of those kinds of games have been made for the wii since E32007; the wii-haters tend to refer to them as shovelware. (there are now more games released+announced on the wii than either of the other two systems)



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@libellule: You obviously have no clue about anything. Most analysts were predicting last year that the Wii fad would die come this year. You believe that devs don't trust analysts? They even pay them gross amounts of money to get an overall analysis of what's happening. Obviously when they asked themselves if making games for the Wii was worthy, their analysts said the exact opposite thing. The truth is that those analysts failed really badly, and the Wii is simply destroying the competition.

==> I never talked about analyst, stop failing on each of your comment

by "third party are shifting to the wii, GREAT", I meant "Wii fan people at VGCHartz", not analyst obviously. 


You say there's a lack of third party support, yea there is. But because devs got caught unaware. Wii would be in heaven right now if it had received the amount of good games the HD consoles received, but unluckily that was not the case. Wii only got the afterthoughts and scraps at the beginning of this gen and that's where the myth of "third party games don't sell on the Wii" comes from. I believe a huge portion of the core audience simply moved to the HD's because of the lack of good 3rd party support, but they will be coming back once the games start arriving as soon as early next year.

==> As soon as the motion controller starts arriving to PS360 ... that makes sense.

Another free claim from you

Personnaly, I dont believe Wii wil begin to sell to Hardcore since they just dont need it (Wii xmas line-up is amazingly poor for a hardcore)

As of late Japanese devs started shifting their attention towards the Wii and this year a lot of 3rd party announcements were made in comparison to the HD's. Still there will always be some stubborn companies like SE, Konami and Capcom I understand that. There's a very good list made by Onimusha with the upcoming Wii games, with tons of good ones coming out.

==> Let's hopre for Wii gamer.

You need to understand the market before going out and saying the Wii is a crappy kiddy casual console and that "The empire" is going to get all the games. Just think about it, devs were caught unaware. If they have had the crystal ball, Wii would be flooded by good third party games.

==> I see your point. But Ninty is not pushing third devs to go on this way.

I think Wii will stay the "casual console" forever

amazing sales (why not 200M LTD ?), but not amazing gaming line-up (outside Ninty games)


 



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Nintendo doesn't need to push devs, they are already coming to the Wii. As for third party support for the HD's you may as well call the PS3 a 360, or call the 360 a PS3, since the word exclusive is forbidden.

Wii will remain the casual console forever, that's true. But that doesn't mean that next year games will not start to come. In the worst of the cases Wii will get the most support only from Japan, but it will be a monopoly. Re-read my previous post, I explained why Wii didn't get good 3rd party support so far this gen, yet you insist that it will remain like that forever. Very sad.

Also, you are making your own claims. How can you say that mines aren't true, when you "predictions" aren't more than your own claims. Hypocrisy at its best. Very sad x 2.



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trestres said:

Nintendo doesn't need to push devs, they are already coming to the Wii. As for third party support for the HD's you may as well call the PS3 a 360, or call the 360 a PS3, since the word exclusive is forbidden.

==> sure

Wii will remain the casual console forever, that's true. But that doesn't mean that next year games will not start to come. In the worst of the cases Wii will get the most support only from Japan, but it will be a monopoly. Re-read my previous post, I explained why Wii didn't get good 3rd party support so far this gen, yet you insist that it will remain like that forever. Very sad.

==> I know your point.

but It doesn't mean it will happen since industry have already seen the power of the wii storm 1 year ago and the situation is pretty similar right now : lack of heavy third party support opposed to what Wii fans predicted.

Also, I doubt people will make amazing "low end gfx" games just for the Wii. I think gaming is partially about "new technology" and many studios are already befin to target next gen gaming for PS4/Wii2/Xbox720. Trends are hard to change.

Also, you are making your own claims. How can you say that mines aren't true, when you "predictions" aren't more than your own claims. Hypocrisy at it's best. Very sad x 2.

FACT, I used 1 fact : Wii = lack of third party support even 1 year after E32007
then
U have made your guess about the future and I have answered by making my own too.

Both are free obviously, but you are the one that is using ur guess as a true fact (explaning me that I'm blind)

Dont invert our position plz.

 

 



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It's fair to criticize if you dont do what you're criticising. But please tell me, how are AAA games supposed to be made in under a year (beginning of 2008)?

Also, why couldn't third parties be making excellent games for the Wii? What about games like The Conduit, Madworld, GH:WT, Rock Band 2, NMH 1 and 2, etc? The Wii is much cheaper to develop and includes a new GAMEPLAY technology that devs could be exploring + exploiting. How is it that people forget that games are not only graphics and sound?

Answer me please.



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He is maybe right, some title screens are really busy like Half life 2 title screens (they show some events) and are maybe using HD graphics even in the title screen. I doubt it's only "Resident Evil 5 - Press start".

The jackass part is him mentioning the Wii just to cover up the fact that RE 5 looks exactly like how RE4 plays. He shouldn't have to attack anything to state a good argument that RE5 is better than RE4 in many ways, him having to clearly shows he can't come up with a good argument.



@trestres,

I have said it DURING YEARS !

It is possible, Wii technology is sufficient to do great games
I agree !!!
BUT
it seems MAIN devs are not going on this way and continue to focus on PS360PC and not on Wii.

That is what I believe Ninty is not pusing enought like if they dont care about what third party devs are doing for their console.

I dont know.



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