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1. PS2 last gen, currently DS. Looks like some developers don't want to get involved in the console wars (or are taking the sit and watch approach) and have scampered off to the handhelds. See: Tales series.

2. DS, definitely. PSP only for those people that want ports of PS1/PS2 RPGs. The only ones I absolutely must have on PSP are the Star Ocean remakes/ports, which I would have preferred on DS.

3. There's Japanese RPGs on the PC. Ys series is a good example. It's just that most of them never leave Japan and are obscure. The only way we got Ys VI was through a PS2 port.

4. Currently, DS. That way no franchises will become victims of the war.



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mrstickball said:
I think unless people actually lived during the SNES era, and were huge RPG fans, you'd never understand the entire breadth and depth of the SNES RPG catalogue. The reason the PS2 even has an RPG catalogue is because of the games on SNES:

Final Fantasy IV-VI-MQ
Secret of Series (Mana, Evermore)
Enix ARPG Series (Soul Blazer, Illusion of Gaia, Terrangamia)
Breath of Fire I-II
Lufia I-II
Super Mario RPG
RoboTech
Super Robot Wars
Far East of Eden
Fire Emblem
Romanance of the 3 Kingdoms
Chrono Trigger
Star Ocean
Tales of Phantasia
Earthbound

Those are the ones off the top of my head that either started on SNES, had multiple series featured on SNES, but nevertheless, it gave a huge bit of RPGs their start, and dominance.

So hands down, if you actually lived/played in that era (like I did), the SNES was THE system to own. There were plenty of WRPGs and Sega RPGs that weren't on the SNES, but the majority of real good ones were. The reason the PS1/2 had so many RPGs was the simple dominance issue, whereas the SNES had to prove it and did.

 I grew up in that era. I played most of those titles except Romance off the 3 kingdoms and Robotech. Chrono Cross is the best rpg ever done period. I still play it on my snes.

ItsaMii said:
I strongly disagree with you Ari_Gold


Snes have

Chrono Trigger
Terranigma
Dragon Quest 5
Dragon Quest 3 (remake)
Super mario RPG
Final fantasy 6
Seiken Densetsu 3
Earthbound
Breath of Fire 2
LUFIA 2
Tales of Phantasia

All those, save for BOF2, are all time great RPGs.

Parasite Eve 2 was a Resident evil rip off, not a RPG. Chrono Cross ruined the Chrono legacy. Breath of Fire 3 is not as good as 2 and not even one of the best RPGs ever. Star Ocean till the end of time took a lot of playing time to get interesting. Dark Cloud was a great improvement from the shitty Dark Cloud but not a AAA+ title. FF 8, X-2 and XII sucked (it is a matter of opinion, but sales were not good for the last 2). Legendia is a kind of excellent game with deadly flaws (gameplay, story on the 2nd part of the game, lack of voice acting). Xenosaga is ok, just not a game that will last forever.

I agree that DQ 8 is the best in the series and that the first Kingdom Hearts rocks. Shin Megami Tensei is good, but not all of them and the series started on Snes (like Tales, Star Ocean, Romancing Saga, Mana series. Parasite Eve was a great experience for me and a fresh start for the RPG formula, yet Squaresoft fucked it up.

You forgot to mention Disgaea and Odim Sphere on the PS2, these games are great. There are action RPGs also for the PSX like Castlevania and Musashi.

I think that the Snes wins on AAA+ titles. I did not even included some WRPGs in the list like Shadowrun and Ultima.

 i respect your opinion. I just mentioned rpg games on the PS2/PS1 console, i didnt say they were my favorites or anything. 

Actually bro, the saga series started on the game boy, and shin megami started on the nes. Disgaea and Odin Sphere are fun, i forgot to mention them.  



1. SNES, with PS2 a close but DEFINITE second place. PS1 takes third. FF4, FF5 (JSNES still counts!), FF6, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Super Mario RPG, Secret of Mana > FF12, Odin Sphere, Xenosaga 1, 2, 3, Kingdom Hearts 1, 2, Suikoden 3, 4, 5

2. DS is no doubt whupping the PSP in this category, although there are nice contenders on that system and there is something to be said for the PSP's superior cinematic capabilities.

3. (A) The ones that do get made for the PC just don't get ported to this side of the Pacific, methinks.
(B) Part of the reason that consoles get more RPGs is partly historical, I believe.
--(1) PCs used to be way expensive with a small home userbase, and most of THOSE didn't go out and get lots of games for it. Game consoles were cheap and everybody who had one was buying games for it.
--(2) Square, Enix, etc. These companies were the GODS of JRPGs. There is only so much market for these games, and most of it was focused on the consoles. Too bad so sad for PC owners.
--(3) The big advantage of PCs has NOT been graphics until very recently; it has been networking. PCs were the only place to go for multiplayer [edit: as opposed to two-player] -- the N64 in 1996 was the first major console to even have four controller ports! Meanwhile, on a PC, you could play DOOM against all the idiots on campus; later, you could play Counterstrike against all the morons on the Internets. RPGs are a one man show; no need for a game machine with networking capability.

[edit: With the exception of MMORPGs, in which case -- surprise, surprise! -- PCs reign supreme.]

ANYWAY:
4. I think it's a toss-up between the Wii -- most creative gameplay possibilities -- and the PS3 -- most capability for cinematic experiences.

Why not PC? (A) I hope you concede that the Wii offers the POSSIBILITY for the most natural control scheme experience.
(B) The PS3 has more to offer in the way of cinematic capability because
--(1) TEH BLOO RAIE -- to demand all PC owners to run out and get Blu-ray drives is unacceptable, so the PC RPG maker is constrained for at least the next few years to putting games on the more size-restricted DVD format. All this = less cinematics.
--(2) Most PC owners do not have a monitor anywhere near the size of their TV screen, with the exception of those lucky bastards whose monitors ARE their TV screens. Smaller screen = less cinematic experience.

Why not the 360? RRoD = less cinematic experience LOLOLOLOLO but seriously, the PS3 is more powerful and capable of producing more and better graphics, AND it has free online play.



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ItsaMii said:
Star Ocean till the end of time took a lot of playing time to get interesting.

I don't remember a lot about that game, I just remember I hating it. I bought it hearing some good things about and seriously regretting it later. It may have gotten better later, I don't know, but if an RPG can't keep you itnerested for the first hours of play it fails miserably. The beginning of that game was just so painfully boring that I couldn't find myself continuing it.



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Final-Fan said:


Why not the 360? RRoD = less cinematic experience LOLOLOLOLO but seriously, the PS3 is more powerful and capable of producing more and better graphics, AND it has free online play.


I don't what online has to do with RPG's unless it's MMO.  Also, as far as cinematic, Mass Effect looks to be setting the bar there, maybe the PS3 will follow suit eventually but they haven't shown anything so far AFAIK.  The only advantage the PS3 has (since I personally don't believe it's more powerful than the 360) is that blueray will offer more space to store HD footage, which I guess some devs will use, but most don't seem to care about that anymore since cutscenes done in-game are starting to look really good on the new systems.



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1. Which platform do you think got the best RPG titles?

Super Famicom (=SNES), especially the games not released within the US / EU, they're great! Second PS2.

2. What do you think is better for RPGs: PSP or NDS?

PSP, Brave Story and Jeanne d'Arc show very good potential on the PSP. Like I said before, quality is more important then quantity. Too bad the PSP is getting "too" many remakes. I don't find the RPG's on the DS too good, except of Pokemon Pearl / Diamond. FFIII was boring as hell IMO. For that I'm kind of affraid for FF  CC as S.E. seems to have the habbit to dissappoint me a lot lately.


3 . What I always wonderd: why are there not so many RPGs from japan for PC? While the western industry mostly produces for the PC japan goes forconsoles and handhelds.

As far as I know PC gaming is not as populair in Japan as console gaming.

4. What do you think IS the best platform for RPGs? [not GOT like in the 1. question]

PS3 most likely. Of course I should say WII, but I don't have much faith in the difficulty level of the RPG's on the WII. Chocobo Dungeon, Opoona, look like real kids RPG's to me.

Oh one another bad word about SO TTEOT and I'm seriously breaking someone's neck :P It's one of my most favorites! The sound, the story, the gameplay "shivers".



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Best so far: SNES (reasons have been mentioned about numerous times)

Best of Last Gen: PS2 (duh)

Best of This Gen: So far, it looks like 360/DS is going to take this title, but there is still plenty of time



Ari_Gold said:
ItsaMii said:
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i respect your opinion. I just mentioned rpg games on the PS2/PS1 console, i didnt say they were my favorites or anything.

Actually bro, the saga series started on the game boy, and shin megami started on the nes. Disgaea and Odin Sphere are fun, i forgot to mention them.


 Sorry my bad. I played the SMT on the Snes first. The saga series is new info for me thanks. I also respect your opinions (most of them). The only problem for me is that Chrono Cross destroyed a lot of great memories from my childhood. It may be a "good" (average for me) game on its own, but compared to CT it was ...

Well I do not want to disrespect you, let`s just say we have different opinions.

Look forward to Tales of Symphonia 2 on Wii. 



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