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selnor said:
ssj12 said:
endimion said:
RAH you are so annoying with your *pre puberty voice of a 14 years old acne invaded moron geek* "nah it's not XB exclusive it's on PC" look at it any way you want it's not PC exclusive it's Microsoft exclusive...... you don't run on an MS platform or OS you can't play.... who is retarded enough not to get that concept ???? they have game for windows for a reason... why should they reduce their market just to have a couple of hard headed people say yeah it's 100% exclusive..... it's exclusive to MS.... that's why we have a microsoft forum and not an XB forum... trust me if sony was running their own OS they'll do exactly the same......

now the list.... was it supposed to be sarcastic ????

1) LBP... that game that is closer to a physic engine tech demo with a background mapped and drawn by a 5 years old who happened to find a box of crayola... that goes from left to right... like platformers i was playing 20 years ago ????

2) resistance 2... not a chance to do better than gears 2

3) Motorstorm 2.... well another tech demo for the first one... not worth the price... but it's a nice game i'll give you that...

4) socom.... like you said for hardcore fans... so not really a line up pusher...

now i'm not saying any line up is better... but this is not a sexy line up IMO

and just a note about lips versus singstar.... regional bundles OK?????? well lips can run any DRM free mp3 you have on your MP3 player or any storage device... wait a second napster just got its entire library DRM free... itune and amazon are following... so there you go singstar just got buried in one click

you are.. nevermind..

I'll go through your flamebait..

1. You realize you can play games on Macs and Linux too right? Well how about that. Games for Windows? I dont buy any PC games with that label on it. And you missed my point because The Agency shouldnt be on the PS3's list of exclusives due to its PC version.

2. SOCOM - it really isnt for just the hardcore. Its just that the majority of the fanbase is from the PS2 era. PS2 era gamers = hardcore?

3. Who cares if LIPs has one feature better then the other. When does feature A and B matter when SingStar is a well known name and LIPs isnt.

 

Having the game on PC wont affect the console sales. As it's exclusive to 360 its console exclusive. Also SCOM is Niche. Look at sales. And it will matter to everyone if they can play any song they have downloaded to their IPOD with Lips. Gee with just a touch of marketing about this feature and I guarentee Lips doubles the sales of Singstar. What would that be like 50 songs on Singstar verses thousands?????

 

You mean the non existant people who bought a Zune.



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"2. Fable 2 - Lived up to the hype and best RPG of 2008."

Don't really think so. All you x-philes were saying that it would be totally awesome and get a 10 from IGN, well I just checked, and IGN only gave it an 8.8. Plus its Metacritic score is only 89 (Game Rankings = 89.1), so its definitely not that great. And I don't think those review scores will make it move that many 360's. I don't really think Banjo will do any better. With 95s across the board, Little Big Planet is showing that it is in the upper tier of console games released so far during this gen and The Last Remnant will be better on the PS3.

My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

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agreed again paul, Fable 2 is def not as big as it was hyped lmao, LBP on the other hand is huge



thejuicingamer said:
agreed again paul, Fable 2 is def not as big as it was hyped lmao, LBP on the other hand is huge

Because 350K first day in America isn't huge? LBP might not even make that WW first week.

 



ssj12 said:
Huxley shouldn't be on the 360's list... its not exclusive.. it will be on PC and be 100% better on PC.

 

 

It's an exclusive in the console war. PC is has no say, I get your point, but this is what one console has that the other doesnt. PC is not a console.



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ssj12 said:

really good comparison list but why didnt you include SingStar or place VC under Fable 2 since they are both RPGs??

 

Because Singstar is already out. And because I only linked games which are the same in terms of content and/or have the same kind of impact on each console. Valkyria is a SRPG with no adventure element and will definitely not have the same impact Fable 2 will have on 360 (I'm not saying Valkyria is bad or anything, it's just not as strongly hyped as Fable 2). 

In my opinion PS3 lineup is the strongest in terms of solid games all the games cited will probably be reviewed above 8, as for 360 lineup only four of tose have the potential to be above 8.



fayewong said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
fayewong said:

PS3:

1. LittleBigplanet

2. Resistance 2

3. Motor Storm: Pacific Rift

4. Socom: US Navy Seals Confrontation

5. Valkyria Chronicles

6. Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm

7. Bioshock (not exclusive but still coming out this season)

8. White Knight Chronicles  (Japan)

 

Xbox 360:

1. Fable 2

2. Gears of War 2

3.  Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts

4. The Last Remnant (timed Exclusive)

5. Left 4 Dead

 

Multiplatform:

1. Mirror's Edge

2. Call of Duty: World at War

3. Prince of Persia

4. Guitar Hero: World Tour

 

It looks like PS3 has more of a stronger line-up. The multiplatform games seem to balance out the lineup this season. The rest of the exclusives I didn't put cause most of them didn't seem very appealing or have any interest in at all so I didn't add them.

So please don't be talking crap about some game on another console... its still coming out on that console and lots of people like the game even if you don't. It may be crap to you but those who are still buying it think otherwise. Everyone has different tastes.

 

 

 

PS3 doesn't have the stronger lineup. They just have more games. (More games= better lineup) It's amazing that the 360 still 6 hot exclusives in the basket amongst a years worth of great games unlike the PS3. Write down the great exclusives that have come out on the 360 the whole year and put it up against the PS3. Last time I checked Socom didn't do so well in the review section either. ( Who cares about what the review says, the only thing important is how many of those interested in buying the game)  Bioshock doesn't count. (why not? its coming out in PS3's lineup this year.. you don't want this game to succeed on the Ps3 now? If this don't count, then The Last remant don't count either) You also forgot Naruto for the 360. Gears 2, Fable 2 is enough to take on LBP and Resistance 2. Those are the only true AAA titles. I'll make a bet with you that together the Gears 2 and Fable 2 combined sells twice what LBP and Resistance 2 sells combined.

 

 

They just have more games.  More games= better lineup

Quantity doesn't always equate to quality, so your logic is incorrect. Let me give you an image of this. If there was a handicapped game of basketball pitting 6 against 4. Half of the players on the team of 4 have great players and the other two are ok. Lets just say the team of 6 were all average players. The fact that the 2 of the 4 players whom were great could lead the other two to victory, despite a 2 on 1 for 2 of the player of 4.

AAA titles only exemplify leadership and front running status and the more of them the stronger their lineup. The rest are just pretty good or worse. The PS3 and the 360 equally have two AAA games left and one just came out for the 360 in Fable II.

 

Last time I checked Socom didn't do so well in the review section either. Who cares about what the review says, the only thing important is how many of those interested in buying the game

Trust me, reviews are staple for alot of people who just want to buy a quick game. For people like you and me, we actually delve deeper into games, but this isn't how it works for the majority. I haven't heard too many good things from average gamers as well. That game is nowhere near a AAA title. It's going to become useless when M.A.G. comes out.

 

Bioshock doesn't count. Why not? its coming out in PS3's lineup this year.. you don't want this game to succeed on the Ps3 now? If this don't count, then The Last Remnant don't count either

Because it's not exclusive, thats why. It was only a timed exclusive on the 360. Alot of games on the PS3 are coming late to them second hand from the 360. So when they come on the 360 are you going to call them exclusives too?

 

You also forgot Naruto for the 360. I didn't forget it, it didn't seem worthy enough to be on the lineup because not much people seem interested in that game. Compared to the PS3 ultimate ninja storm, people are way more interested in that one.


If the 360 version of Naurto gets no love, the PS3 version doesn't either. This is flawed by blind bias. Get this straight, the Japanese fans get the better versions of the Naruto games.

Gears 2, Fable 2 is enough to take on LBP and Resistance 2. Oh yeah? I don't think so. In the long run, LBP will last longer than any of these games.You try to explain to a kid or a girl/female if they are interested in playing a game with guns and shooting aliens or a game with a kid cursing/animal abuse/ violence and using swords to hit adults vs a sackboy who does no harm and look cuter than the other two games. LBP grabs a bigger and more broader audiencein a way Nintendo would and will sell more WW than these two games.  I could care less about Resistance 2.

This is sad, you're putting so much blind faith in a overhyped game and a game that left much to be desired on the first go round. LBP and Resistance 2 will never sell what Gears 2 and Fable 2 will. Don't use LBP as an excuse for games that lure women and children. Thats what Banjo Kazooie and Viva Pinata are all about and next year Viva Pinata 2 is coming out as well as Banjo Tooie. LBP looks impressive, but i'll hold out on that until I play it.

 

I'll make a bet with you that together the Gears 2 and Fable 2 combined sells twice what LBP and Resistance 2 sells combined. Be careful what you wish for, ignorance makes a person blind from reality. Personally... I don't think they will sell double the amount.. sorry. I don't really care about FPS games... so either Gears 2 or Resistance 2... if they sell big or not.. I really won't care since I am not interested in those kind of genres.

Trust me...I'm quite sure. I'm making my assumption based off of active installed base sales and projected increases from the last versions. Gears has to pass 5 M and Fable 2 has to pass 3 M, which I definitely think it will.

 

The PS3 version will come out the same day as the 360 version. I'll strike that from the PS3 exclusive list.

umm.. you are wrong, its still an exclusive and will sell more the first day it comes out on the PS3. catch my drift or you too blind to understand what I am talking about? hahah.

No it is not. The PS3 version is coming out at the same time as the 360 version. This is the reason the Tekken 6 game got pushed back to next year. It's a multiplat release.

 

Versus is the only PS3 Exclusive FFXIII game. The PC version is the first version of the game that will be completed, then the PS3 version and the 360 version. Of course...the 360 version can be completed quicker though.

dude.. there was never a PC version nor an announced Xbox 360 version. They just said they got it running on the PC to use it on the PS3. what you talking about? you ok?

I just read what SE said. They worked on it on the PC making the PS3 version and the 360 version will be created soon there after. Sorry my mistake, no PC version.

 

The ignorance in some people, its so unbelievable!

Your ignorance is what keeps you bound. I admit when i'm wrong.

 

Quantity doesn't always equate to quality, so your logic is incorrect. Let me give you an image of this. If there was a handicapped game of basketball pitting 6 against 4. Half of the players on the team of 4 have great players and the other two are ok. Lets just say the team of 6 were all average players. The fact that the 2 of the 4 players whom were great could lead the other two to victory, despite a 2 on 1 for 2 of the player of 4.

AAA titles only exemplify leadership and front running status and the more of them the stronger their lineup. The rest are just pretty good or worse.  The PS3 and the 360 equally have two AAA games left and one just came out for the 360 in Fable II.

 



Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
selnor said:

Having the game on PC wont affect the console sales. As it's exclusive to 360 its console exclusive. Also SCOM is Niche. Look at sales. And it will matter to everyone if they can play any song they have downloaded to their IPOD with Lips. Gee with just a touch of marketing about this feature and I guarentee Lips doubles the sales of Singstar. What would that be like 50 songs on Singstar verses thousands?????

 

 

LucasArts disagrees: withheld release of PC version of TFU to prevent piracy.  And PS3 has piracy on f***ing lockdown.

@STAGE: PS3 holidy lineup = more games AND better overall lineup.

 

Um...no. This proves you have a lack of logic. Alot of games just means alot of games. The only true awaited lineup are the AAA titles. PS3 and the 360 have an equal amount of that this holiday season.



Paul_Warren said:
The PS3 has the best lineup of games through this holiday season and on through the next year and the next couple of years after that. That is why it will pass the 360 in the not so distant future and the Wii at some point after that.

 

With the drop in price of the 360 and two AAA titles in Fable II and Gears 2 i'll have to question your logic. The PS3 will not push as many consoles at $399.



outlawauron said:
selnor said:
ssj12 said:
endimion said:
RAH you are so annoying with your *pre puberty voice of a 14 years old acne invaded moron geek* "nah it's not XB exclusive it's on PC" look at it any way you want it's not PC exclusive it's Microsoft exclusive...... you don't run on an MS platform or OS you can't play.... who is retarded enough not to get that concept ???? they have game for windows for a reason... why should they reduce their market just to have a couple of hard headed people say yeah it's 100% exclusive..... it's exclusive to MS.... that's why we have a microsoft forum and not an XB forum... trust me if sony was running their own OS they'll do exactly the same......

now the list.... was it supposed to be sarcastic ????

1) LBP... that game that is closer to a physic engine tech demo with a background mapped and drawn by a 5 years old who happened to find a box of crayola... that goes from left to right... like platformers i was playing 20 years ago ????

2) resistance 2... not a chance to do better than gears 2

3) Motorstorm 2.... well another tech demo for the first one... not worth the price... but it's a nice game i'll give you that...

4) socom.... like you said for hardcore fans... so not really a line up pusher...

now i'm not saying any line up is better... but this is not a sexy line up IMO

and just a note about lips versus singstar.... regional bundles OK?????? well lips can run any DRM free mp3 you have on your MP3 player or any storage device... wait a second napster just got its entire library DRM free... itune and amazon are following... so there you go singstar just got buried in one click

you are.. nevermind..

I'll go through your flamebait..

1. You realize you can play games on Macs and Linux too right? Well how about that. Games for Windows? I dont buy any PC games with that label on it. And you missed my point because The Agency shouldnt be on the PS3's list of exclusives due to its PC version.

2. SOCOM - it really isnt for just the hardcore. Its just that the majority of the fanbase is from the PS2 era. PS2 era gamers = hardcore?

3. Who cares if LIPs has one feature better then the other. When does feature A and B matter when SingStar is a well known name and LIPs isnt.

 

Having the game on PC wont affect the console sales. As it's exclusive to 360 its console exclusive. Also SCOM is Niche. Look at sales. And it will matter to everyone if they can play any song they have downloaded to their IPOD with Lips. Gee with just a touch of marketing about this feature and I guarentee Lips doubles the sales of Singstar. What would that be like 50 songs on Singstar verses thousands?????

 

You mean the non existant people who bought a Zune.

 

Um no...Lips works with both the IPOD and the Zune.