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Glacius said:
PC version of Fallout 3 is expected to be the best. I would say not much difference between PS3 and X360 console version.

 

This.
Especially when mod tools are released.



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Glacius said:
PC version of Fallout 3 is expected to be the best. I would say not much difference between PS3 and X360 console version.

 

No one here is saying there is a difference between the PS3 and the Xbox 360 version, besides the Xbox 360 having achievements, custom soundtracks, and exclusive downloadable content.

The opinion of the graphics and framerate on the PS3 version being noticably worse comes from Playstation Magazine.

Welcome to the forums, btw.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI said:
Glacius said:
PC version of Fallout 3 is expected to be the best. I would say not much difference between PS3 and X360 console version.

 

No one here is saying there is a difference between the PS3 and the Xbox 360 version, besides the Xbox 360 having achievements, custom soundtracks, and exclusive downloadable content.

The opinion of the graphics and framerate on the PS3 version being noticably worse comes from Playstation Magazine.

Welcome to the forums, btw.

 

Achievements? Fair enough. It is a bit of a downer that PS3 owners won't have trophy support.

Custom soundtracks? Given most gamer's taste in music, this is a bad thing. Really though, listening to my own music whilst playing a game that will likely have a decent score screams immersion killer.

Exclusive DLC? How was that GTAIV DLC, btw? Honestly, unless that exclusive DLC will be ready at launch (or near), this isn't a really big plus. Besides, when the GOTY versions start rolling out, both versions will be the same. And if the game isn't good enough to garner such accolades, well then, who cares about DLC?



I'm getting it on the PC anyway, because I think Bethesda may pull an Oblivion again. In which case its going to need some fairly heavy modding to get rid of all the useless dumbing down that will make it worse than it actually needs to be.



What's sad is that they used this developer during E3 to show the power of TEH CELL, and they were going like omg the cell is so awesome you can throw anything at it blah blah blah, and now the PS3 has the inferior version, that's just pathetic on so many levels.



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Jordahn said:
BrayanA said:
Jordahn said:
BrayanA said:
axumblade said:
BrayanA said:
What? Another multi title is better on 360?
Nothing new here.

PS3 owners need to stop acting like a ostrich and to face the truth.
Eurogamer gives all "Xbox 360 vs PS3 Face-Off" to 360. It is 14:0! Yes 360 loose in some games, but win or is equal in the majority! It also win both Bonus Rounds - The Orange Box and GTA IV. Blame Sony, blame developers, blame PS3, blame whoever you want, but it is obvious that PS3 is not the graphical monster many of you think it is.

At least PSM is being honest. Respect!

If it's 14:0 then how does the 360 lose some games? And how are Orange Box and GTA IV bonus rounds? Your comment is just plain dumb. Read your comment before you post it, otherwise, read it after so that you know you're actually making sense.

ROFL ... man you make my day
I laugh for more then 5 minutes!

It is not mine! Your comment is just plain dumb. Check eurogamer.net before you post dumb comment!!! Otherwise, check google after so that you know you're actually making sense!!!

In every "Xbox 360 vs PS3 Face-Off" round from 6 to 10 multiplat games are compared! Not one!

Bonus rounds compares only one game.

Is it clear now?! Or I need to repeat it slower?

 

But why Eurogamer or any other specific source? Take Assassin's Creed for instance. If you read a variety of reviews for both platforms, some say the PS3 version was graphically better while others said the 360 was better. The same went for GTAIV. What do you do about it? Don't make it an issue because it's not. Unless it's some covert way of bashing the competition by cherry picking what favors your console preference...

Why not? Eurogamer is one of the most respected game site in Europe. 360 also wins all 3 rounds of "Xbox 360 Versus PlayStation 3 Graphics Comparison" on Gamespot. Unfortunately they stop doing them.

If you said that some reviews "say the PS3 version was graphically better" then pls, give us a link, so we can read it. And no links from playstation magazines pls. Gamespot, IGN, Gametrailers, Videogamer, Eurogamer, 1UP - you choose one.

And before star searching for links, one advice - don't search in Gamespot, Videogamer or Eurogamer. They all give the edge to GTA IV 360 version.

Gamespot - Xbox 360 Versus PlayStation 3 Graphics Comparison: Round 3 - GTA IV
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6191251/p-3.html
"If we had to definitively pick a version, we'd go with the 360's rendition of the game for its crisper visuals"

Videogamer - GTA 4: Xbox 360 vs. PS3 - 360 Wins
http://www.videogamer.com/features/article/29-04-2008-389.html
"if you own both consoles and want to buy the best version, we'd have to recommend the Xbox 360 game."

Eurogamer - check "Xbox 360 vs PS3 Face-Off" Bonus Round 2

 

 

First of all, no one said you cannot use Eurogamer, and no one said it wasn't a reputable source.

Second, you said...

"It also win both Bonus Rounds - The Orange Box and GTA IV."

In regards to GTA IV, IGN wrote:

"Past GTA titles have had mild-to-serious framerate issues and technical glitches, because the games were trying to do far more than the PlayStation 2 could handle. While GTA IV is pushing the PS3 and 360 to the limit, it also runs amazingly well. Sure, there are framerate hitches here and there and (particularly on 360) there is some texture pop-in, but it actually runs better than I expected. That a game with great AI, an awesome physics engine and a detailed open world runs so well and with such short load times is a technical marvel. For that, I can forgive framerate issues and some noticeable aliasing."

...and...

"For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud."

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/869/869541p5.html

But maybe you think IGN isn't reputable because the review does not favor your console of choice. See, that's cherry picking. Out of the whole bunch, you only pick what appeals to you because IGN gave the graphical nod to the PS3 version of GTA IV. So in your mind as long as the website/source favors the 360 version of a game over the PS3 version, it's reputable and honest as you said...

"At least PSM is being honest (9/10 for Fallout 3 PS3 version)."

Again, you CANNOT successfully refute my statment...

"But why Eurogamer or any other specific source? Take Assassin's Creed for instance. If you read a variety of reviews for both platforms, some say the PS3 version was graphically better while others said the 360 was better. The same went for GTAIV. What do you do about it? Don't make it an issue because it's not. Unless it's some covert way of bashing the competition by cherry picking what favors your console preference..."

Fanboys cherry pick to paint a false picture to hide behind. You have proven that.

I accept IGN review, even if it is just a review and not a graphics comparison article as 3 I gave to you. Even with the "PS3 has better anti-aliasing" (no AA for PS3 version, 2xAA for 360 version). Still 1:3, I'm waithing for 2 more.

 



Jordahn said:
BrayanA said:
Jordahn said:
BrayanA said:
xman said:
Its pretty simple the 360 and PC hold the same architecture since the biggest platform for this game is the PC and 360, they developed the game for the PC+360 and are porting it over to the PS3.

The issue with ports is you are taking the weakness of the 360+pc version and adding the PS3 which inherently makes it worse. As people have mentioned if you drop it months later you can re write a lot of code to fix most of the issues.

This is going to be a common theme with most muti plat games because the PC/360 market is going to be bigger than the PS3 for the next couple of years.

Last gen PS2 was the dominate platform so all games were developed for that and ported to the other players, this is the advantage you get for having a bigger user base. Plus the 360 gets to add PC people to there numbers.

But seriously if you own a PS3 only your getting a great game still

Nope. XBOX games where much better in graphical department, even if their main developing platform was PS2. For PC ports XBOX just crush PS2 graphicaly. The problem was that many games didn't come to XBOX at all, or from 6 to 12 months later.

 

 

There was NOTHING wrong with xman's comment because what he said was generally true. It had nothing to do with the graphical capabilities of the console. 3rd party developers did the smart thing by developing on the PS2 first (because of it's relatively large userbase and extensive lead) from a business point of view. So a similar mentality can be said the same this gen.
Please don't act so insecure by taking things out of context.

His main point is that PS3 version suffer, cos the main development platform is PC/360. Then why XBOX didn't suffer, no matter if the game was PS2 port, PC port or comes day one as PS2 version? Cos it was much more graphically powerfull then PS2. Now guest which console is not more graphicaly powerfull then 360?

 

Wrong again. He said...

"Last gen the PS was the dominant platform..." with "dominant platform" being the key phrase, and he also said "this is the advantage you get for having a bigger user base."

The PS2 was dominant because "of it's relatively large userbase and extensive lead" which is what I fleshed out. That's without guessing what he meant by using the his own words in context so it wasn't about graphics. NOWHERE in his paragraph did he say that. You failed again because of your biased fanboyism against the PS3 and reasoning.

Your faulty reasoning really invalidated your point that "Now guest which console is not more graphicaly powerfull then 360?" because in a previous post in this thread in regards to GTA IV, I have proven you wrong.

All of his statement is to explain why 360 version is a bit better! How all of us understand this and only you is still digging?

Hes explanation is that games are developed for the PC+360 and then are ported to the PS - "Its pretty simple the 360 and PC hold the same architecture since the biggest platform for this game is the PC and 360, they developed the game for the PC+360 and are porting it over to the PS3. The issue with ports is you are taking the weakness of the 360+pc version and adding the PS3 which inherently makes it worse."

Then he explain why developers are doing it - "This is going to be a common theme with most muti plat games because the PC/360 market is going to be bigger than the PS3 for the next couple of years."

My statement is - even that original xbox use a lot of PS2 ports - later port or same day ports, games still looks better on it. Then I explain why! Cos XBOX was much more powerfull machine. Then why PS3 ports are worst, even after most of PS3 owners clame that PS3 is more powerfull then 360? Cos it is just not! In graphical deparment it is equal at max. Of course this is mine opinion.

What here is not clear ?!



Jordahn said:
BrayanA said:
Pristine20 said:
I saw this one coming. Add no DLC to that and you'll get the full picture lol. Good thing I ceased to care about fallout. I wish they had swords instead. The whole shoot thing is played out

Why all PS3 users just start to bash the game, only cos 360 version is a bit better?

The game is good. Just buy it and have fun.

 

Maybe some gamers don't care much for a post-apocalyptic environment.

 

Some gamers yes, but how all of a sudden all PS3 users stop care about Fallout 3. Check Fallout threads a few weeks ago. I see a lot "day one purchase" posts from PS3 owners. There are fanboys that now might not buy this game because they think they are getting a gimped version. This is pity!

Same happen with FF 13. A lot of posts "FF 13 >>> all 360 RPG games" before E3. After E3 threads like "I think FF versus 13 > FF 13" start poping like mуshrooms after rain.

And by the way. I'm not a 360 fanboy. I'm a gammer and PC is my favourite platform.

 



BrayanA said:
Jordahn said:
BrayanA said:
Pristine20 said:
I saw this one coming. Add no DLC to that and you'll get the full picture lol. Good thing I ceased to care about fallout. I wish they had swords instead. The whole shoot thing is played out

Why all PS3 users just start to bash the game, only cos 360 version is a bit better?

The game is good. Just buy it and have fun.

 

Maybe some gamers don't care much for a post-apocalyptic environment.

 

Some gamers yes, but how all of a sudden all PS3 users stop care about Fallout 3. Check Fallout threads a few weeks ago. I see a lot "day one purchase" posts from PS3 owners. There are fanboys that now might not buy this game because they think they are getting a gimped version. This is pity!

Same happen with FF 13. A lot of posts "FF 13 >>> all 360 RPG games" before E3. After E3 threads like "I think FF versus 13 > FF 13" start poping like mуshrooms after rain.

And by the way. I'm not a 360 fanboy. I'm a gammer and PC is my favourite platform.

 

^^^Serious generalization.  If you said "PS3 fanboys" that would be more understandable.  And I'm not asking you to point out specific users, but to say "all," you're pushing false generalizations to push a false point.  This is a sign of fanboyism no matter how you try to justify it. 

 



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BrayanA said:
Jordahn said:
BrayanA said:
Jordahn said:
BrayanA said:
xman said:
Its pretty simple the 360 and PC hold the same architecture since the biggest platform for this game is the PC and 360, they developed the game for the PC+360 and are porting it over to the PS3.

The issue with ports is you are taking the weakness of the 360+pc version and adding the PS3 which inherently makes it worse. As people have mentioned if you drop it months later you can re write a lot of code to fix most of the issues.

This is going to be a common theme with most muti plat games because the PC/360 market is going to be bigger than the PS3 for the next couple of years.

Last gen PS2 was the dominate platform so all games were developed for that and ported to the other players, this is the advantage you get for having a bigger user base. Plus the 360 gets to add PC people to there numbers.

But seriously if you own a PS3 only your getting a great game still

Nope. XBOX games where much better in graphical department, even if their main developing platform was PS2. For PC ports XBOX just crush PS2 graphicaly. The problem was that many games didn't come to XBOX at all, or from 6 to 12 months later.

 

 

There was NOTHING wrong with xman's comment because what he said was generally true. It had nothing to do with the graphical capabilities of the console. 3rd party developers did the smart thing by developing on the PS2 first (because of it's relatively large userbase and extensive lead) from a business point of view. So a similar mentality can be said the same this gen.
Please don't act so insecure by taking things out of context.

His main point is that PS3 version suffer, cos the main development platform is PC/360. Then why XBOX didn't suffer, no matter if the game was PS2 port, PC port or comes day one as PS2 version? Cos it was much more graphically powerfull then PS2. Now guest which console is not more graphicaly powerfull then 360?

 

Wrong again. He said...

"Last gen the PS was the dominant platform..." with "dominant platform" being the key phrase, and he also said "this is the advantage you get for having a bigger user base."

The PS2 was dominant because "of it's relatively large userbase and extensive lead" which is what I fleshed out. That's without guessing what he meant by using the his own words in context so it wasn't about graphics. NOWHERE in his paragraph did he say that. You failed again because of your biased fanboyism against the PS3 and reasoning.

Your faulty reasoning really invalidated your point that "Now guest which console is not more graphicaly powerfull then 360?" because in a previous post in this thread in regards to GTA IV, I have proven you wrong.

All of his statement is to explain why 360 version is a bit better! How all of us understand this and only you is still digging?

 

Digging??? You're a hypocrite. All I did was used a user's post within this thread while you were the one who had to go out of this website to "prove" a previous "point."  Now, I don't think you were digging, but to say I was when you went even further is hypocricy.  Hypocricy is also a sign of fanboyism.  Keep it up...  



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